1 00:00:04,260 --> 00:00:22,150 [Music] 2 00:00:24,310 --> 00:00:22,950 hello 3 00:00:26,390 --> 00:00:24,320 and welcome to the show i'm martin 4 00:00:27,750 --> 00:00:26,400 willis your host and we've got a great 5 00:00:29,830 --> 00:00:27,760 show for you tonight 6 00:00:30,870 --> 00:00:29,840 uh first we're going to start out with 7 00:00:33,430 --> 00:00:30,880 um uh 8 00:00:35,110 --> 00:00:33,440 dr travis taylor and brendan fugle we're 9 00:00:38,310 --> 00:00:35,120 going to be talking about the secret 10 00:00:40,869 --> 00:00:38,320 of the skin walker ranch um the premiere 11 00:00:41,750 --> 00:00:40,879 this season premiere is tonight and it's 12 00:00:44,150 --> 00:00:41,760 coming out 13 00:00:45,430 --> 00:00:44,160 this is may 4th and by the way it's 14 00:00:47,110 --> 00:00:45,440 coming out of course on the history 15 00:00:50,389 --> 00:00:47,120 channel 16 00:00:53,670 --> 00:00:50,399 and i wanted to show everyone this 17 00:00:54,549 --> 00:00:53,680 it's star wars day so may the 4th be 18 00:00:56,709 --> 00:00:54,559 with you 19 00:00:58,630 --> 00:00:56,719 and probably some of you know this but 20 00:01:00,950 --> 00:00:58,640 if you if you 21 00:01:02,950 --> 00:01:00,960 copy that text may the fourth be with 22 00:01:05,270 --> 00:01:02,960 you and put it in google 23 00:01:06,390 --> 00:01:05,280 just watch what happens it's really fun 24 00:01:09,590 --> 00:01:06,400 check it out 25 00:01:12,469 --> 00:01:09,600 um so i am uh 26 00:01:13,670 --> 00:01:12,479 i'm happy to have these two people on 27 00:01:15,350 --> 00:01:13,680 first we're going to be talking for 28 00:01:17,510 --> 00:01:15,360 about a half hour or so 29 00:01:18,469 --> 00:01:17,520 and then we're going to be getting into 30 00:01:20,550 --> 00:01:18,479 um 31 00:01:21,749 --> 00:01:20,560 other things beside the skinwalker ranch 32 00:01:23,749 --> 00:01:21,759 we're going to be kind of bouncing 33 00:01:27,109 --> 00:01:23,759 around a couple of other topics 34 00:01:28,710 --> 00:01:27,119 and then and the 35 00:01:30,870 --> 00:01:28,720 second part of the show about a half 36 00:01:34,310 --> 00:01:30,880 hour in i'm going to have 37 00:01:36,230 --> 00:01:34,320 mark fiontor foreign i'm 38 00:01:37,429 --> 00:01:36,240 trying to say his name he's going to be 39 00:01:41,350 --> 00:01:37,439 up and 40 00:01:43,429 --> 00:01:41,360 uh he has a very interesting theory 41 00:01:45,109 --> 00:01:43,439 that actually it does involve the ufos 42 00:01:47,590 --> 00:01:45,119 we are going to be talking about that 43 00:01:49,030 --> 00:01:47,600 and a lot more skinwalker ranch has 44 00:01:50,550 --> 00:01:49,040 always intrigued me 45 00:01:52,389 --> 00:01:50,560 right from the beginning when i started 46 00:01:55,749 --> 00:01:52,399 to look into this topic 47 00:01:57,910 --> 00:01:55,759 and uh this season premiere uh 48 00:01:59,670 --> 00:01:57,920 it was interesting last year it's going 49 00:02:00,469 --> 00:01:59,680 to be another season of interesting 50 00:02:03,429 --> 00:02:00,479 things 51 00:02:04,310 --> 00:02:03,439 happening on the ranch unexplained is 52 00:02:06,870 --> 00:02:04,320 it's uh 53 00:02:09,029 --> 00:02:06,880 it's funny when i talk to people that 54 00:02:12,070 --> 00:02:09,039 are not even into ufos 55 00:02:13,830 --> 00:02:12,080 but they heard of say some paranormal or 56 00:02:15,589 --> 00:02:13,840 other things like that 57 00:02:17,670 --> 00:02:15,599 they seem to know about the skinwalker 58 00:02:18,229 --> 00:02:17,680 ranch i mean a lot of people know about 59 00:02:21,270 --> 00:02:18,239 that 60 00:02:22,309 --> 00:02:21,280 just because of all the strange 61 00:02:25,670 --> 00:02:22,319 goings-on 62 00:02:26,550 --> 00:02:25,680 to me i think the portal things uh what 63 00:02:29,110 --> 00:02:26,560 happens that 64 00:02:29,670 --> 00:02:29,120 people are claiming and scientists are 65 00:02:32,229 --> 00:02:29,680 claiming 66 00:02:34,470 --> 00:02:32,239 also that have actually seen this portal 67 00:02:37,509 --> 00:02:34,480 open with a figure coming out of it 68 00:02:39,589 --> 00:02:37,519 just bizarre things happen uh on our 69 00:02:42,470 --> 00:02:39,599 blog this week by charles lear 70 00:02:42,869 --> 00:02:42,480 it's a chili's widget uh ufo is the name 71 00:02:46,710 --> 00:02:42,879 of that 72 00:02:48,790 --> 00:02:46,720 and it's all about a um a ufo 1948 73 00:02:50,869 --> 00:02:48,800 incident that happened in chile 74 00:02:52,229 --> 00:02:50,879 and check that out that'll be an audio 75 00:02:55,670 --> 00:02:52,239 blog later 76 00:02:58,390 --> 00:02:55,680 this week as usual and 77 00:02:59,990 --> 00:02:58,400 let's see anything else i can think of 78 00:03:01,910 --> 00:03:00,000 as i do want to thank everyone 79 00:03:03,430 --> 00:03:01,920 that supports the show anyone can do 80 00:03:04,070 --> 00:03:03,440 that all that information is on our 81 00:03:10,550 --> 00:03:04,080 website 82 00:03:13,030 --> 00:03:10,560 and i am ready to bring in 83 00:03:14,070 --> 00:03:13,040 our two guests a little tricky because 84 00:03:16,869 --> 00:03:14,080 we have a lot of people 85 00:03:18,869 --> 00:03:16,879 down below hey brandon how are you hey 86 00:03:20,869 --> 00:03:18,879 good to be with you 87 00:03:22,070 --> 00:03:20,879 dr taylor welcome to the show how you 88 00:03:23,910 --> 00:03:22,080 doing 89 00:03:26,149 --> 00:03:23,920 so i have to right off the bat i want to 90 00:03:28,229 --> 00:03:26,159 ask you um you know 91 00:03:30,390 --> 00:03:28,239 about covet how did this affect your 92 00:03:32,949 --> 00:03:30,400 filming this year when it came to the 93 00:03:36,149 --> 00:03:32,959 filming of the skinwalker ranch 94 00:03:38,070 --> 00:03:36,159 wow uh dr taylor's probably best to to 95 00:03:41,110 --> 00:03:38,080 address it but i i'll just tell you 96 00:03:43,190 --> 00:03:41,120 as a prelude you know establishing 97 00:03:44,789 --> 00:03:43,200 health and safety protocols and i think 98 00:03:45,990 --> 00:03:44,799 more elevated health and safety 99 00:03:48,710 --> 00:03:46,000 protocols in order to 100 00:03:49,589 --> 00:03:48,720 bring out the crew from los angeles and 101 00:03:51,030 --> 00:03:49,599 really 102 00:03:52,789 --> 00:03:51,040 you know make sure that everyone was 103 00:03:55,830 --> 00:03:52,799 comfortable with proceeding during 104 00:03:58,550 --> 00:03:55,840 a historic time with something that 105 00:03:59,350 --> 00:03:58,560 that was unique i i think our program 106 00:04:02,390 --> 00:03:59,360 you know 107 00:04:03,270 --> 00:04:02,400 season two of the secretive skinwalker 108 00:04:05,990 --> 00:04:03,280 ranch 109 00:04:07,750 --> 00:04:06,000 had to be one of the only television 110 00:04:10,149 --> 00:04:07,760 series being filmed 111 00:04:12,229 --> 00:04:10,159 this last summer in the midst of uh 112 00:04:14,789 --> 00:04:12,239 global pandemic so 113 00:04:15,990 --> 00:04:14,799 travis what are you yeah one of the one 114 00:04:17,909 --> 00:04:16,000 of the big things that people don't 115 00:04:19,509 --> 00:04:17,919 realize is where we were in the u into 116 00:04:20,870 --> 00:04:19,519 basin was a green zone 117 00:04:22,629 --> 00:04:20,880 i mean it's basically the middle of the 118 00:04:23,830 --> 00:04:22,639 desert you know a high plains desert 119 00:04:27,110 --> 00:04:23,840 nobody's there 120 00:04:30,230 --> 00:04:27,120 and uh so we didn't have a lot of issues 121 00:04:31,590 --> 00:04:30,240 per se there from covid uh 122 00:04:33,270 --> 00:04:31,600 you know a lot of businesses were not 123 00:04:35,670 --> 00:04:33,280 completely open you know at 124 00:04:37,590 --> 00:04:35,680 the same kind of business hours and the 125 00:04:40,310 --> 00:04:37,600 uh the hollywood crews 126 00:04:40,629 --> 00:04:40,320 and the people that came in uh we all 127 00:04:43,909 --> 00:04:40,639 got 128 00:04:47,030 --> 00:04:43,919 and we test our 129 00:04:47,830 --> 00:04:47,040 temperature every day and we uh a lot of 130 00:04:50,550 --> 00:04:47,840 the guys 131 00:04:51,909 --> 00:04:50,560 wore masks if they wanted to uh but 132 00:04:52,390 --> 00:04:51,919 since we were in a green zone in the 133 00:04:55,270 --> 00:04:52,400 desert 134 00:04:56,070 --> 00:04:55,280 it wasn't necessarily required um the 135 00:04:58,710 --> 00:04:56,080 crew though 136 00:04:59,590 --> 00:04:58,720 they did actually the crew always do 137 00:05:02,550 --> 00:04:59,600 anyway because 138 00:05:03,189 --> 00:05:02,560 the sand out there is so fine uh it's 139 00:05:04,790 --> 00:05:03,199 not what 140 00:05:07,029 --> 00:05:04,800 boys do just to keep it out of their 141 00:05:09,510 --> 00:05:07,039 face 142 00:05:11,110 --> 00:05:09,520 must be hard on the equipment too uh 143 00:05:13,189 --> 00:05:11,120 yeah well the ranch is hard on the 144 00:05:13,830 --> 00:05:13,199 equipment in other ways and we can talk 145 00:05:17,670 --> 00:05:13,840 about that 146 00:05:21,029 --> 00:05:17,680 too but uh but i think i actually had it 147 00:05:22,230 --> 00:05:21,039 probably as bad as anybody because i 148 00:05:24,950 --> 00:05:22,240 would fly home 149 00:05:26,310 --> 00:05:24,960 to my family in alabama on fridays and 150 00:05:27,830 --> 00:05:26,320 come back on sundays 151 00:05:30,550 --> 00:05:27,840 so i was going through the airport 152 00:05:31,510 --> 00:05:30,560 constantly uh during this i mean i lived 153 00:05:34,710 --> 00:05:31,520 on the ranch from 154 00:05:36,150 --> 00:05:34,720 sunday night to friday morning and then 155 00:05:37,670 --> 00:05:36,160 i would fly home for a night at home 156 00:05:40,469 --> 00:05:37,680 with my family 157 00:05:41,830 --> 00:05:40,479 and uh the airports i i got to see the 158 00:05:44,390 --> 00:05:41,840 evolution of it 159 00:05:46,150 --> 00:05:44,400 uh you know when we first started i was 160 00:05:48,230 --> 00:05:46,160 like the only person in the airport 161 00:05:51,189 --> 00:05:48,240 but by the end of the summer people were 162 00:05:53,830 --> 00:05:51,199 starting to get back to flying 163 00:05:54,390 --> 00:05:53,840 wow wow yeah that that whole thing has 164 00:06:04,230 --> 00:05:54,400 been 165 00:06:11,430 --> 00:06:07,270 yeah where is that did 166 00:06:18,629 --> 00:06:15,590 no okay is there anything i'm sorry 167 00:06:20,550 --> 00:06:18,639 is the ranch there is there's something 168 00:06:22,870 --> 00:06:20,560 playing somewhere 169 00:06:24,870 --> 00:06:22,880 if can you hear it on this all right 170 00:06:26,790 --> 00:06:24,880 this is all just coming over my computer 171 00:06:29,350 --> 00:06:26,800 something's coming i'm sorry 172 00:06:31,430 --> 00:06:29,360 i think i've been hacked by the guys 173 00:06:33,670 --> 00:06:31,440 yeah welcome now you're an experiencer 174 00:06:35,909 --> 00:06:33,680 martin 175 00:06:36,870 --> 00:06:35,919 all right i'm shutting everything up but 176 00:06:39,749 --> 00:06:36,880 you never know 177 00:06:40,550 --> 00:06:39,759 we see all kind of crazy stuff like that 178 00:06:42,150 --> 00:06:40,560 yeah 179 00:06:43,590 --> 00:06:42,160 so i'm hearing like something else 180 00:06:45,749 --> 00:06:43,600 completely coming over my 181 00:06:47,430 --> 00:06:45,759 my uh computer i'm just so glad you 182 00:06:49,189 --> 00:06:47,440 can't hear it and i'll figure it out 183 00:06:51,909 --> 00:06:49,199 eventually 184 00:06:54,309 --> 00:06:51,919 what's going on but but it makes it hard 185 00:06:56,870 --> 00:06:54,319 to concentrate so i'm going to ask 186 00:06:58,309 --> 00:06:56,880 um you a question either one of you can 187 00:07:01,510 --> 00:06:58,319 talk about this but 188 00:07:03,110 --> 00:07:01,520 as far as the uh the person that for the 189 00:07:04,870 --> 00:07:03,120 very first time is hearing about the 190 00:07:07,029 --> 00:07:04,880 skinwalker ranch do either one of you 191 00:07:08,950 --> 00:07:07,039 want to take that and kind of explain 192 00:07:11,110 --> 00:07:08,960 um the things that have happened and i 193 00:07:12,870 --> 00:07:11,120 did have a question about the shermans 194 00:07:15,350 --> 00:07:12,880 uh travis and i were talking about that 195 00:07:18,790 --> 00:07:15,360 off here but i just wondered 196 00:07:19,990 --> 00:07:18,800 if uh well brandon i didn't get a chance 197 00:07:23,110 --> 00:07:20,000 to ask you have you ever 198 00:07:24,950 --> 00:07:23,120 spoken to the shermans no 199 00:07:26,230 --> 00:07:24,960 we've we've had indirect communication 200 00:07:29,270 --> 00:07:26,240 with the shermans 201 00:07:30,390 --> 00:07:29,280 and you know there they have they have 202 00:07:32,710 --> 00:07:30,400 confirmed 203 00:07:33,670 --> 00:07:32,720 the reality of what they had experienced 204 00:07:36,309 --> 00:07:33,680 and have added 205 00:07:37,029 --> 00:07:36,319 to the narrative a little bit but uh i 206 00:07:38,390 --> 00:07:37,039 think 207 00:07:41,670 --> 00:07:38,400 in answer to your first question 208 00:07:43,510 --> 00:07:41,680 skinwalker ranch it's a 512 acre piece 209 00:07:44,629 --> 00:07:43,520 of property out in the uinta basin that 210 00:07:46,309 --> 00:07:44,639 is the 211 00:07:48,070 --> 00:07:46,319 the most scientifically studied 212 00:07:51,589 --> 00:07:48,080 paranormal hotspot on the planet 213 00:07:54,390 --> 00:07:51,599 has been locked down under 24-hour 214 00:07:57,110 --> 00:07:54,400 you know seven day per week 365 days a 215 00:08:00,150 --> 00:07:57,120 year surveillance since 1996 216 00:08:02,309 --> 00:08:00,160 when billionaires billionaire aerospace 217 00:08:03,189 --> 00:08:02,319 entrepreneur robert bigelow acquired the 218 00:08:06,230 --> 00:08:03,199 property 219 00:08:08,150 --> 00:08:06,240 from the sherman family after uh having 220 00:08:10,550 --> 00:08:08,160 it brought to his attention that the 221 00:08:12,309 --> 00:08:10,560 property for whatever reason seemed to 222 00:08:15,909 --> 00:08:12,319 be the center of gravity 223 00:08:19,110 --> 00:08:15,919 for everything from ufo sightings to 224 00:08:21,990 --> 00:08:19,120 strange shape-shifting demonic uh 225 00:08:22,950 --> 00:08:22,000 entities to orbs and cattle mutilation 226 00:08:25,909 --> 00:08:22,960 phenomena 227 00:08:27,749 --> 00:08:25,919 and so mr bigelow brought his team of 228 00:08:30,309 --> 00:08:27,759 scientists and investigators 229 00:08:33,190 --> 00:08:30,319 to the property locked it down and 230 00:08:34,310 --> 00:08:33,200 commenced an investigation that in 2008 231 00:08:38,310 --> 00:08:34,320 became part of 232 00:08:40,230 --> 00:08:38,320 a pentagon black budget program 233 00:08:41,509 --> 00:08:40,240 studying the phenomena that ran through 234 00:08:44,310 --> 00:08:41,519 2013. 235 00:08:45,190 --> 00:08:44,320 in 2016 i acquired the property from mr 236 00:08:47,670 --> 00:08:45,200 bigelow 237 00:08:49,110 --> 00:08:47,680 opened a new chapter and brought in a 238 00:08:52,030 --> 00:08:49,120 new team of 239 00:08:54,310 --> 00:08:52,040 of scientists and investigators really a 240 00:08:57,350 --> 00:08:54,320 multi-disciplinary group of people that 241 00:08:58,870 --> 00:08:57,360 have been joined by dr taylor and 242 00:09:00,470 --> 00:08:58,880 you know for the first time ever we 243 00:09:03,430 --> 00:09:00,480 opened the ranch up 244 00:09:03,750 --> 00:09:03,440 to you know to television cameras for 245 00:09:07,110 --> 00:09:03,760 the 246 00:09:09,670 --> 00:09:07,120 in true 247 00:09:10,790 --> 00:09:09,680 unscripted fashion the day-to-day 248 00:09:12,949 --> 00:09:10,800 activities 249 00:09:14,070 --> 00:09:12,959 and scientific investigation that has 250 00:09:17,509 --> 00:09:14,080 been going on 251 00:09:19,590 --> 00:09:17,519 for over five years under my stewardship 252 00:09:22,150 --> 00:09:19,600 interesting well i've talked to uh a few 253 00:09:23,910 --> 00:09:22,160 people uh john alexander and 254 00:09:25,350 --> 00:09:23,920 people that were on site you know during 255 00:09:27,190 --> 00:09:25,360 the earlier years 256 00:09:28,389 --> 00:09:27,200 and i just i have to say something this 257 00:09:31,030 --> 00:09:28,399 is really crazy 258 00:09:32,790 --> 00:09:31,040 but you know what uh happened the thing 259 00:09:35,990 --> 00:09:32,800 that was playing in the background 260 00:09:38,070 --> 00:09:36,000 was the screener for the skinwalker 261 00:09:39,509 --> 00:09:38,080 ranch it just started playing all on its 262 00:09:41,590 --> 00:09:39,519 own i had it 263 00:09:42,790 --> 00:09:41,600 i had watched it last night it was on 264 00:09:44,070 --> 00:09:42,800 one of my tabs 265 00:09:46,310 --> 00:09:44,080 i didn't even go there just started 266 00:09:49,590 --> 00:09:46,320 playing this stuff up 267 00:09:50,790 --> 00:09:49,600 you just cannot beat yourself up i i kid 268 00:09:52,150 --> 00:09:50,800 you not 269 00:09:54,790 --> 00:09:52,160 you know i wanted to add amazing what 270 00:09:57,990 --> 00:09:54,800 brandon was just saying you bet sure 271 00:10:00,630 --> 00:09:58,000 uh i i just did a uh a 272 00:10:01,590 --> 00:10:00,640 question answer thing on uh online this 273 00:10:04,870 --> 00:10:01,600 morning 274 00:10:07,110 --> 00:10:04,880 and one of the questions was is it hard 275 00:10:09,829 --> 00:10:07,120 to do real science out there with the 276 00:10:11,670 --> 00:10:09,839 required sensationalism that of 277 00:10:15,110 --> 00:10:11,680 television production 278 00:10:15,829 --> 00:10:15,120 and and i my response to that was nobody 279 00:10:19,150 --> 00:10:15,839 on the team 280 00:10:21,590 --> 00:10:19,160 nor brandon would allow for any made-up 281 00:10:22,230 --> 00:10:21,600 sensationalism what's going on that you 282 00:10:24,069 --> 00:10:22,240 see 283 00:10:26,150 --> 00:10:24,079 is what's happening to us when it 284 00:10:27,990 --> 00:10:26,160 happens i mean it's the cameras are just 285 00:10:29,190 --> 00:10:28,000 kind of following us along nothing is 286 00:10:31,190 --> 00:10:29,200 contrived 287 00:10:32,630 --> 00:10:31,200 none of it is as hollywood made up i 288 00:10:34,949 --> 00:10:32,640 mean it's literally 289 00:10:36,069 --> 00:10:34,959 that freaky when we're out there and the 290 00:10:38,710 --> 00:10:36,079 cameras were 291 00:10:40,230 --> 00:10:38,720 so much stuff happens we're lucky that 292 00:10:41,509 --> 00:10:40,240 the cameras are pointing in the right 293 00:10:43,110 --> 00:10:41,519 direction when it does 294 00:10:44,150 --> 00:10:43,120 because it's like it knows that the 295 00:10:45,509 --> 00:10:44,160 cameras are looking over here so 296 00:10:47,190 --> 00:10:45,519 something will happen over here 297 00:10:49,509 --> 00:10:47,200 it's really weird how that how that 298 00:10:50,630 --> 00:10:49,519 works oh i've heard that i've heard the 299 00:10:53,430 --> 00:10:50,640 story of when 300 00:10:54,310 --> 00:10:53,440 the cameras were all around the cattle 301 00:10:56,310 --> 00:10:54,320 and then 302 00:10:57,590 --> 00:10:56,320 all of a sudden one camera went out and 303 00:10:58,550 --> 00:10:57,600 all these things happened i think there 304 00:11:00,949 --> 00:10:58,560 was a mutilate 305 00:11:02,389 --> 00:11:00,959 mutilation and a cow was dropped head 306 00:11:03,910 --> 00:11:02,399 first or something like that i can't 307 00:11:06,949 --> 00:11:03,920 remember exactly what it was 308 00:11:07,910 --> 00:11:06,959 well one thing we we don't do is break 309 00:11:09,190 --> 00:11:07,920 the fourth wall 310 00:11:11,430 --> 00:11:09,200 so we don't really talk about the 311 00:11:12,949 --> 00:11:11,440 cameraman but their cameras are always 312 00:11:14,710 --> 00:11:12,959 going down the memory cards are 313 00:11:15,829 --> 00:11:14,720 accidentally getting erased the 314 00:11:18,630 --> 00:11:15,839 batteries are 315 00:11:19,670 --> 00:11:18,640 were brand new uh like at one second ago 316 00:11:22,069 --> 00:11:19,680 and now suddenly 317 00:11:24,389 --> 00:11:22,079 they're they're completely dead and the 318 00:11:25,829 --> 00:11:24,399 day i got exposed to radiation uh that's 319 00:11:27,509 --> 00:11:25,839 shown in season one 320 00:11:29,590 --> 00:11:27,519 what know what you don't realize is all 321 00:11:30,790 --> 00:11:29,600 three cameras went down at that instant 322 00:11:31,990 --> 00:11:30,800 and wouldn't come back up for several 323 00:11:33,829 --> 00:11:32,000 minutes and they filmed a lot of that 324 00:11:35,990 --> 00:11:33,839 with a cell phone 325 00:11:36,949 --> 00:11:36,000 oh my goodness well i gotta tell you so 326 00:11:39,670 --> 00:11:36,959 many times 327 00:11:40,790 --> 00:11:39,680 in the ufo phenomenon in the world i 328 00:11:42,389 --> 00:11:40,800 speak to people 329 00:11:44,310 --> 00:11:42,399 that have had cameras with full 330 00:11:47,670 --> 00:11:44,320 batteries phones with full batteries 331 00:11:49,990 --> 00:11:47,680 everything goes dead and fully charged 332 00:11:51,030 --> 00:11:50,000 and yeah there's something going on 333 00:11:53,910 --> 00:11:51,040 that's for sure 334 00:11:56,230 --> 00:11:53,920 and so so many things happen there and i 335 00:11:58,230 --> 00:11:56,240 know there was a long period of time 336 00:12:00,389 --> 00:11:58,240 brandon before you actually bought the 337 00:12:00,629 --> 00:12:00,399 place where nothing was happening it was 338 00:12:30,550 --> 00:12:00,639 a 339 00:12:32,470 --> 00:12:30,560 but you know within the first 30 to 60 340 00:12:34,470 --> 00:12:32,480 days of my stewardship 341 00:12:35,750 --> 00:12:34,480 ownership of the property you know 342 00:12:38,710 --> 00:12:35,760 things started 343 00:12:39,430 --> 00:12:38,720 popping up i mean our our drone surveyor 344 00:12:41,350 --> 00:12:39,440 captured 345 00:12:42,790 --> 00:12:41,360 images in broad daylight in the middle 346 00:12:46,389 --> 00:12:42,800 of the day of 347 00:12:49,590 --> 00:12:46,399 what can only be described as ufo craft 348 00:12:50,949 --> 00:12:49,600 above the property that uh that really 349 00:12:54,150 --> 00:12:50,959 don't correlate with any 350 00:12:54,470 --> 00:12:54,160 conventional explanation and you know 351 00:12:58,949 --> 00:12:54,480 the 352 00:13:01,590 --> 00:12:58,959 and increased in frequency so 353 00:13:03,430 --> 00:13:01,600 i i i'm not sure that the phenomena ever 354 00:13:04,389 --> 00:13:03,440 really went away i think for whatever 355 00:13:07,670 --> 00:13:04,399 reason 356 00:13:11,030 --> 00:13:07,680 uh mr bigelow's focus it shifted 357 00:13:13,350 --> 00:13:11,040 and you know obviously he has uh 358 00:13:15,750 --> 00:13:13,360 quite an exciting enterprise in in las 359 00:13:19,350 --> 00:13:15,760 vegas with bigelow aerospace 360 00:13:21,030 --> 00:13:19,360 um and and i think you know it was time 361 00:13:23,030 --> 00:13:21,040 for a new chapter to be opened 362 00:13:25,509 --> 00:13:23,040 relative to this this intriguing 363 00:13:25,910 --> 00:13:25,519 property i i'd point something else out 364 00:13:28,710 --> 00:13:25,920 too 365 00:13:30,069 --> 00:13:28,720 uh um brandon's principal investigator 366 00:13:33,110 --> 00:13:30,079 eric bard 367 00:13:34,069 --> 00:13:33,120 uh was capturing data for three years 368 00:13:37,829 --> 00:13:34,079 before i ever got 369 00:13:42,310 --> 00:13:37,839 out there and one man cannot go through 370 00:13:45,430 --> 00:13:42,320 three years of 24 7 4 5 6 7 8 cameras 371 00:13:47,430 --> 00:13:45,440 always going and find everything eric 372 00:13:50,310 --> 00:13:47,440 has 373 00:13:51,269 --> 00:13:50,320 giga terabytes google plexes of data 374 00:13:53,030 --> 00:13:51,279 stored away 375 00:13:54,470 --> 00:13:53,040 that he still hasn't been able to go all 376 00:13:57,269 --> 00:13:54,480 the way through so we 377 00:13:58,150 --> 00:13:57,279 you know who knows what the the sensors 378 00:13:59,350 --> 00:13:58,160 have caught 379 00:14:00,790 --> 00:13:59,360 that we just haven't found it's kind of 380 00:14:01,509 --> 00:14:00,800 like the search for extraterrestrial 381 00:14:03,590 --> 00:14:01,519 intelligence 382 00:14:05,110 --> 00:14:03,600 how they had all that data for years and 383 00:14:07,110 --> 00:14:05,120 they had no idea what was in it and they 384 00:14:09,110 --> 00:14:07,120 still don't have it all crunched yet 385 00:14:11,110 --> 00:14:09,120 well i think we're going to always be 386 00:14:13,829 --> 00:14:11,120 finding stuff in that footage that 387 00:14:15,509 --> 00:14:13,839 that brandon's team started with uh you 388 00:14:17,269 --> 00:14:15,519 know in 2016 389 00:14:18,389 --> 00:14:17,279 through now and even the stuff that 390 00:14:19,430 --> 00:14:18,399 we've been capturing we haven't been 391 00:14:21,189 --> 00:14:19,440 able to go through all of it either it's 392 00:14:22,790 --> 00:14:21,199 just too much data for 393 00:14:25,670 --> 00:14:22,800 you know it's going to take some kind of 394 00:14:28,710 --> 00:14:25,680 super computer to do it 395 00:14:30,389 --> 00:14:28,720 would either one of you like if you were 396 00:14:35,269 --> 00:14:30,399 told you had to stay there 397 00:14:40,870 --> 00:14:38,310 you've done it travis dr 398 00:14:42,310 --> 00:14:40,880 taylor's actually lived on the property 399 00:14:44,310 --> 00:14:42,320 for months at a time 400 00:14:46,550 --> 00:14:44,320 really you know for the you know the 401 00:14:47,269 --> 00:14:46,560 past several seasons of filming and so 402 00:14:49,430 --> 00:14:47,279 he's 403 00:14:50,389 --> 00:14:49,440 yeah i don't know other than you know 404 00:14:54,550 --> 00:14:50,399 eric bard 405 00:14:56,629 --> 00:14:54,560 and uh no i'm sorry i meant this alone 406 00:14:58,470 --> 00:14:56,639 if you were all alone no one else that's 407 00:15:00,710 --> 00:14:58,480 all man would you be uncomfortable 408 00:15:03,910 --> 00:15:00,720 completely alone there 409 00:15:05,110 --> 00:15:03,920 yeah yeah you know because it's unsafe 410 00:15:06,550 --> 00:15:05,120 we don't know what would happen in fact 411 00:15:07,189 --> 00:15:06,560 there's a safety protocol brandon 412 00:15:10,230 --> 00:15:07,199 doesn't let 413 00:15:12,389 --> 00:15:10,240 let you go out there alone uh you have 414 00:15:14,790 --> 00:15:12,399 to do a buddy system uh 415 00:15:16,870 --> 00:15:14,800 i've done it you know you might somebody 416 00:15:18,310 --> 00:15:16,880 might be there for an hour or so at the 417 00:15:19,590 --> 00:15:18,320 most because they're waiting at the gate 418 00:15:21,750 --> 00:15:19,600 for someone or something 419 00:15:24,230 --> 00:15:21,760 but uh that you don't want to be there 420 00:15:25,670 --> 00:15:24,240 because what if something happens 421 00:15:27,110 --> 00:15:25,680 i'm not gonna give you a spoiler but 422 00:15:29,990 --> 00:15:27,120 there are things that happen that can 423 00:15:32,310 --> 00:15:30,000 cause a person to become catatonic 424 00:15:34,550 --> 00:15:32,320 and and you don't know or are at least 425 00:15:35,749 --> 00:15:34,560 unclear of their faculties 426 00:15:37,670 --> 00:15:35,759 and they could do something that hurts 427 00:15:39,990 --> 00:15:37,680 themselves and without a buddy 428 00:15:41,269 --> 00:15:40,000 system in a situation like that or they 429 00:15:43,110 --> 00:15:41,279 got bit by snake 430 00:15:44,710 --> 00:15:43,120 or a mountain lion attacked them you 431 00:15:46,550 --> 00:15:44,720 know i mean it's it is a ranch in the 432 00:15:49,990 --> 00:15:46,560 middle of nowhere 433 00:15:52,230 --> 00:15:50,000 yeah yeah yeah and and what about um 434 00:15:53,670 --> 00:15:52,240 the one thing i imagine is probably a 435 00:15:55,829 --> 00:15:53,680 real pain in the neck and 436 00:15:57,269 --> 00:15:55,839 it's good to get the word out there it's 437 00:15:59,430 --> 00:15:57,279 all the people that try to 438 00:16:00,629 --> 00:15:59,440 get there and try to get onto the 439 00:16:04,230 --> 00:16:00,639 property i'm sure it's a 440 00:16:08,069 --> 00:16:04,240 i'm sure it's a major headache yeah and 441 00:16:10,150 --> 00:16:08,079 at the room yeah 442 00:16:11,269 --> 00:16:10,160 dragon and caleb have had to call law 443 00:16:13,030 --> 00:16:11,279 enforcement in 444 00:16:14,710 --> 00:16:13,040 and we've had a number of people 445 00:16:16,470 --> 00:16:14,720 detained that have 446 00:16:17,990 --> 00:16:16,480 you know ignorantly tried to enter the 447 00:16:19,829 --> 00:16:18,000 property and they don't understand the 448 00:16:22,710 --> 00:16:19,839 risk that they are taking 449 00:16:23,189 --> 00:16:22,720 when when when entering the property but 450 00:16:25,189 --> 00:16:23,199 you know 451 00:16:26,710 --> 00:16:25,199 truly bad things happen we're dealing 452 00:16:29,430 --> 00:16:26,720 with forces that we 453 00:16:31,110 --> 00:16:29,440 we just don't understand you know these 454 00:16:32,150 --> 00:16:31,120 acute medical episodes that have 455 00:16:35,590 --> 00:16:32,160 occurred 456 00:16:38,230 --> 00:16:35,600 uh are real this is a dangerous place 457 00:16:38,949 --> 00:16:38,240 and you know the security protocols that 458 00:16:42,069 --> 00:16:38,959 are in place 459 00:16:45,030 --> 00:16:42,079 are you know interestingly you know 460 00:16:46,629 --> 00:16:45,040 just as much there to to help protect 461 00:16:49,430 --> 00:16:46,639 the uh the ignorant 462 00:16:50,310 --> 00:16:49,440 and the would-be you know trespasser 463 00:16:52,550 --> 00:16:50,320 that that 464 00:16:54,470 --> 00:16:52,560 that thinks that it's that it's clever 465 00:16:55,430 --> 00:16:54,480 to try to get a photo or try to come on 466 00:16:57,030 --> 00:16:55,440 the property 467 00:16:59,670 --> 00:16:57,040 they just have no idea what they're 468 00:17:00,150 --> 00:16:59,680 dealing with yeah and it's a bad idea 469 00:17:01,430 --> 00:17:00,160 all 470 00:17:03,990 --> 00:17:01,440 together we're doing a scientific 471 00:17:06,309 --> 00:17:04,000 investigation and there are many times 472 00:17:07,429 --> 00:17:06,319 where we've had lasers for example that 473 00:17:08,949 --> 00:17:07,439 we were doing experiments with that 474 00:17:10,309 --> 00:17:08,959 would burn your eyeballs out if you 475 00:17:11,029 --> 00:17:10,319 walked across where you weren't supposed 476 00:17:13,909 --> 00:17:11,039 to be 477 00:17:15,750 --> 00:17:13,919 you know we we were flying drones around 478 00:17:17,990 --> 00:17:15,760 that that could have caused injury if 479 00:17:19,510 --> 00:17:18,000 you got in a spot where you shouldn't be 480 00:17:21,189 --> 00:17:19,520 you know there who knows what the 481 00:17:23,429 --> 00:17:21,199 experiment might be 482 00:17:25,669 --> 00:17:23,439 that we're performing and if we don't 483 00:17:27,590 --> 00:17:25,679 know you're there we can't keep you safe 484 00:17:29,430 --> 00:17:27,600 you know we've launched rockets that are 485 00:17:31,350 --> 00:17:29,440 very powerful rockets 486 00:17:33,029 --> 00:17:31,360 that would definitely harm somebody if 487 00:17:33,909 --> 00:17:33,039 they wandered in in the wrong place the 488 00:17:35,750 --> 00:17:33,919 wrong time 489 00:17:37,510 --> 00:17:35,760 so i tell people it was just a bad idea 490 00:17:38,310 --> 00:17:37,520 don't try to sneak on the wrench cause 491 00:17:41,909 --> 00:17:38,320 you think it's cool it's 492 00:17:44,870 --> 00:17:41,919 just a bad idea yeah now if you 493 00:17:45,909 --> 00:17:44,880 you know you think of the paranormal or 494 00:17:48,470 --> 00:17:45,919 whatever it is that 495 00:17:49,590 --> 00:17:48,480 is happening there doesn't have borders 496 00:17:52,549 --> 00:17:49,600 has anyone 497 00:17:53,590 --> 00:17:52,559 explored the outer region of the 498 00:17:56,310 --> 00:17:53,600 property to see 499 00:17:57,430 --> 00:17:56,320 how far people have reported things how 500 00:17:59,830 --> 00:17:57,440 far around 501 00:18:00,470 --> 00:17:59,840 the property are things happening 502 00:18:02,870 --> 00:18:00,480 besides 503 00:18:05,510 --> 00:18:02,880 right there you bet we we've cataloged 504 00:18:07,830 --> 00:18:05,520 reports from the entire uinta basin 505 00:18:08,549 --> 00:18:07,840 uh you know there's a sister property 506 00:18:09,990 --> 00:18:08,559 where we've been 507 00:18:11,830 --> 00:18:10,000 conducting a little bit of an 508 00:18:15,110 --> 00:18:11,840 investigation and have 509 00:18:18,070 --> 00:18:15,120 you know a close collaboration with um 510 00:18:20,630 --> 00:18:18,080 that that also has has had a history but 511 00:18:23,909 --> 00:18:20,640 i i will say this for whatever reason 512 00:18:25,029 --> 00:18:23,919 there is a high frequency of high 513 00:18:27,909 --> 00:18:25,039 strangeness and 514 00:18:29,350 --> 00:18:27,919 incidents and a diversity of phenomena 515 00:18:33,110 --> 00:18:29,360 on this property 516 00:18:35,430 --> 00:18:33,120 uh and that that that is 517 00:18:36,390 --> 00:18:35,440 at a multiplier i mean it's it's at a 518 00:18:39,750 --> 00:18:36,400 multiple 519 00:18:42,470 --> 00:18:39,760 uh beyond what the surrounding area 520 00:18:43,430 --> 00:18:42,480 has uh has has experienced for whatever 521 00:18:45,909 --> 00:18:43,440 reason 522 00:18:46,630 --> 00:18:45,919 yeah so if you look at the ranch it is 523 00:18:48,549 --> 00:18:46,640 like 524 00:18:51,590 --> 00:18:48,559 pretty much dead center at the bottom of 525 00:18:54,470 --> 00:18:51,600 the bowl that is the uinta basin 526 00:18:55,270 --> 00:18:54,480 and maybe that's for some reason it's 527 00:18:58,470 --> 00:18:55,280 the focus 528 00:19:00,789 --> 00:18:58,480 of all the high strangeness uh but 529 00:19:02,789 --> 00:19:00,799 yeah you got to believe that a barbed 530 00:19:05,190 --> 00:19:02,799 wire fence on the edge of the 500 531 00:19:07,029 --> 00:19:05,200 acre ranch isn't going to stop something 532 00:19:09,590 --> 00:19:07,039 that you know people claim as you know 533 00:19:10,789 --> 00:19:09,600 ufos or whatever or portals opening up 534 00:19:13,510 --> 00:19:10,799 i don't think a barbed wire fence is 535 00:19:16,390 --> 00:19:13,520 going to do that any good so 536 00:19:17,270 --> 00:19:16,400 we hear people they bring us videos and 537 00:19:19,909 --> 00:19:17,280 pictures and stuff 538 00:19:20,950 --> 00:19:19,919 all the time from roosevelt all the way 539 00:19:23,430 --> 00:19:20,960 down to vernal 540 00:19:25,669 --> 00:19:23,440 and to other places that are 5 to 20 30 541 00:19:28,390 --> 00:19:25,679 40 50 miles away 542 00:19:30,150 --> 00:19:28,400 but it seems like the ranch is the nexus 543 00:19:33,990 --> 00:19:30,160 of it 544 00:19:37,110 --> 00:19:34,000 right wow it's amazing so so brandon 545 00:19:40,789 --> 00:19:37,120 um the property you 546 00:19:42,230 --> 00:19:40,799 acquired this from bigelow had you heard 547 00:19:44,310 --> 00:19:42,240 about this for a long time and it 548 00:19:47,350 --> 00:19:44,320 sparked your interest and you wanted to 549 00:19:47,590 --> 00:19:47,360 what what made you decide to actually uh 550 00:19:58,150 --> 00:19:47,600 i 551 00:20:00,789 --> 00:19:58,160 property or was 552 00:20:01,510 --> 00:20:00,799 did someone approach you yeah i i was 553 00:20:04,070 --> 00:20:01,520 approached i 554 00:20:05,110 --> 00:20:04,080 i would have never imagined in a million 555 00:20:08,870 --> 00:20:05,120 years 556 00:20:11,270 --> 00:20:08,880 acquiring a property like this let alone 557 00:20:12,549 --> 00:20:11,280 the infamous skinwalker ranch you know i 558 00:20:15,909 --> 00:20:12,559 i had read the book 559 00:20:17,110 --> 00:20:15,919 i think back in 2006 2007 in fact i saw 560 00:20:19,990 --> 00:20:17,120 it at barnes and noble 561 00:20:20,950 --> 00:20:20,000 the hunt for the skinwalker that was uh 562 00:20:23,029 --> 00:20:20,960 written by 563 00:20:24,310 --> 00:20:23,039 you know dr colin kelleher and george 564 00:20:26,230 --> 00:20:24,320 knapp the 565 00:20:28,950 --> 00:20:26,240 the investigative journalist out of las 566 00:20:31,669 --> 00:20:28,960 vegas that really broke the big story on 567 00:20:33,110 --> 00:20:31,679 on the scientific investigation and but 568 00:20:35,909 --> 00:20:33,120 i can honestly say 569 00:20:36,390 --> 00:20:35,919 i read the book in a weekend put it down 570 00:20:39,590 --> 00:20:36,400 and 571 00:20:42,950 --> 00:20:39,600 really didn't revisit the property or 572 00:20:46,870 --> 00:20:42,960 any interest in the ranch until 573 00:20:49,909 --> 00:20:46,880 really i was i was contacted by 574 00:20:53,029 --> 00:20:49,919 several of mr bigelow science advisors 575 00:20:54,149 --> 00:20:53,039 that i had uh actually interacted with a 576 00:20:57,430 --> 00:20:54,159 decade ago 577 00:20:58,630 --> 00:20:57,440 on a on a a project a research project 578 00:21:00,630 --> 00:20:58,640 in utah and 579 00:21:03,510 --> 00:21:00,640 unbeknownst to me they were you know 580 00:21:05,750 --> 00:21:03,520 acting as advisers to mr bigelow and 581 00:21:06,789 --> 00:21:05,760 and asked if i would be willing to take 582 00:21:10,310 --> 00:21:06,799 a meeting 583 00:21:13,750 --> 00:21:10,320 uh to discuss a potential joint venture 584 00:21:17,590 --> 00:21:13,760 or acquisition as uh as mr bigelow was 585 00:21:19,669 --> 00:21:17,600 was very much uh deeply entrenched with 586 00:21:20,630 --> 00:21:19,679 the space habitats program you know 587 00:21:23,190 --> 00:21:20,640 getting his 588 00:21:25,590 --> 00:21:23,200 his inflatable uh modules up on the 589 00:21:27,830 --> 00:21:25,600 international space station and frankly 590 00:21:29,430 --> 00:21:27,840 beyond you know ultimately you know they 591 00:21:32,149 --> 00:21:29,440 they intend to 592 00:21:32,870 --> 00:21:32,159 to put his his uh real estate 593 00:21:35,669 --> 00:21:32,880 development 594 00:21:36,070 --> 00:21:35,679 technology on on the moon and mars and 595 00:21:39,510 --> 00:21:36,080 he's 596 00:21:40,390 --> 00:21:39,520 entrepreneur that has his own space 597 00:21:43,350 --> 00:21:40,400 stations 598 00:21:44,149 --> 00:21:43,360 in orbit is that true travis yeah well 599 00:21:47,190 --> 00:21:44,159 they're uh 600 00:21:49,029 --> 00:21:47,200 uh right now the uh habitat is attached 601 00:21:50,390 --> 00:21:49,039 to the space station international space 602 00:21:53,110 --> 00:21:50,400 station he's putting one up 603 00:21:53,669 --> 00:21:53,120 that will be a free flyer his own but 604 00:21:55,270 --> 00:21:53,679 that yeah 605 00:21:57,350 --> 00:21:55,280 that's he's the only one building the 606 00:22:00,070 --> 00:21:57,360 hotel in space so to speak 607 00:22:01,909 --> 00:22:00,080 yeah so so you know i i was intrigued 608 00:22:04,710 --> 00:22:01,919 when they reached out to me and said i 609 00:22:05,909 --> 00:22:04,720 you know being in utah i thought it was 610 00:22:08,710 --> 00:22:05,919 it was interesting uh 611 00:22:11,029 --> 00:22:08,720 you know i i can access the property by 612 00:22:12,549 --> 00:22:11,039 way of you know helicopter or jet 613 00:22:14,470 --> 00:22:12,559 a little bit easier than other people 614 00:22:16,950 --> 00:22:14,480 since i use aviation 615 00:22:17,510 --> 00:22:16,960 with my commercial real estate practice 616 00:22:27,750 --> 00:22:17,520 and 617 00:22:29,270 --> 00:22:27,760 i bought it as a skeptic i in full 618 00:22:31,909 --> 00:22:29,280 disclosure 619 00:22:34,390 --> 00:22:31,919 uh you know stated that i'd never seen a 620 00:22:35,669 --> 00:22:34,400 ufo or ghost or an orb or anything of 621 00:22:38,710 --> 00:22:35,679 the sort and i 622 00:22:40,630 --> 00:22:38,720 i felt that there was a 95 chance that 623 00:22:42,710 --> 00:22:40,640 there was a natural prosaic explanation 624 00:22:44,350 --> 00:22:42,720 for what had been reported out there and 625 00:22:46,390 --> 00:22:44,360 i intended to bring my own 626 00:22:50,870 --> 00:22:46,400 multi-disciplinary team 627 00:22:51,190 --> 00:22:50,880 to this ranch to this problem set if you 628 00:22:53,430 --> 00:22:51,200 will 629 00:22:54,950 --> 00:22:53,440 to to see if there was any truth to the 630 00:22:58,470 --> 00:22:54,960 claims and so i 631 00:22:59,750 --> 00:22:58,480 i i i entered the property as a healthy 632 00:23:02,710 --> 00:22:59,760 skeptic 633 00:23:03,270 --> 00:23:02,720 and uh i would have never imagined uh if 634 00:23:06,310 --> 00:23:03,280 you would have 635 00:23:08,630 --> 00:23:06,320 years ago 636 00:23:09,510 --> 00:23:08,640 uh that i that i would ultimately be the 637 00:23:12,549 --> 00:23:09,520 owner of this 638 00:23:14,630 --> 00:23:12,559 this very unique piece of property i i 639 00:23:16,630 --> 00:23:14,640 wouldn't have believed you it's so far 640 00:23:18,070 --> 00:23:16,640 outside of the realm of my conventional 641 00:23:20,870 --> 00:23:18,080 business activities 642 00:23:21,830 --> 00:23:20,880 on a day-to-day basis that i think it 643 00:23:24,470 --> 00:23:21,840 still baffles 644 00:23:25,430 --> 00:23:24,480 those who uh who are doing business with 645 00:23:28,390 --> 00:23:25,440 me on a 646 00:23:30,310 --> 00:23:28,400 on an hourly basis exactly it's not it's 647 00:23:33,750 --> 00:23:30,320 outside the realm of your 648 00:23:36,070 --> 00:23:33,760 day-to-day thought process i mean we 649 00:23:37,909 --> 00:23:36,080 i know uh the first time i met you guys 650 00:23:40,549 --> 00:23:37,919 i told you i thought you were all crazy 651 00:23:41,510 --> 00:23:40,559 right and then you know a few weeks 652 00:23:43,190 --> 00:23:41,520 after being there 653 00:23:44,710 --> 00:23:43,200 you know i walk out of one of the spots 654 00:23:45,430 --> 00:23:44,720 on the property say i guess i'm crazy 655 00:23:48,549 --> 00:23:45,440 too 656 00:23:50,310 --> 00:23:48,559 because it just does that to you i mean 657 00:23:51,830 --> 00:23:50,320 you see things that you think you would 658 00:23:52,549 --> 00:23:51,840 never see in your life and you thought 659 00:23:54,950 --> 00:23:52,559 they were just 660 00:23:57,029 --> 00:23:54,960 tales around the campfire and it's the 661 00:23:59,510 --> 00:23:57,039 craziest thing you can imagine 662 00:24:01,750 --> 00:23:59,520 yeah people people ask all the time are 663 00:24:04,870 --> 00:24:01,760 you a believer now do you believe and i 664 00:24:05,590 --> 00:24:04,880 i tell people no i i'm an experiencer i 665 00:24:09,590 --> 00:24:05,600 know 666 00:24:10,630 --> 00:24:09,600 i've seen it with my own eyes i can't 667 00:24:13,430 --> 00:24:10,640 unsee 668 00:24:14,549 --> 00:24:13,440 this stuff i and and it's just not it's 669 00:24:16,390 --> 00:24:14,559 not just me 670 00:24:18,230 --> 00:24:16,400 i mean i've had multiple witnesses 671 00:24:21,029 --> 00:24:18,240 standing with me yeah 672 00:24:22,070 --> 00:24:21,039 yeah same thing with dr taylor he's been 673 00:24:24,549 --> 00:24:22,080 sitting there with 674 00:24:25,669 --> 00:24:24,559 i mean as many as you know 15 20 675 00:24:27,590 --> 00:24:25,679 personnel 676 00:24:29,909 --> 00:24:27,600 and crew members that are witnessing the 677 00:24:31,190 --> 00:24:29,919 phenomena and scientific instruments 678 00:24:33,110 --> 00:24:31,200 all happening at the same time 679 00:24:33,990 --> 00:24:33,120 everything measuring it i mean you can't 680 00:24:36,390 --> 00:24:34,000 tell me that 681 00:24:37,830 --> 00:24:36,400 it didn't happen we've got multiple 682 00:24:39,430 --> 00:24:37,840 scientific instruments looking at 683 00:24:41,590 --> 00:24:39,440 multiple phenomenologies 684 00:24:43,430 --> 00:24:41,600 and camera and people seeing it all at 685 00:24:45,190 --> 00:24:43,440 once i mean it happens it's something 686 00:24:46,950 --> 00:24:45,200 real i don't know what 687 00:24:48,390 --> 00:24:46,960 yeah that that's what i'd like to ask 688 00:24:50,230 --> 00:24:48,400 you and i know 689 00:24:52,390 --> 00:24:50,240 when you're talking science no one ever 690 00:24:55,750 --> 00:24:52,400 likes to speculate in science 691 00:24:59,430 --> 00:24:55,760 but i'm gonna ask you this um dr 692 00:25:03,190 --> 00:24:59,440 taylor um if you had to make 693 00:25:05,669 --> 00:25:03,200 um a speculative guest guess on what is 694 00:25:09,110 --> 00:25:05,679 actually going on there 695 00:25:09,430 --> 00:25:09,120 have you thought of theories oh well you 696 00:25:11,750 --> 00:25:09,440 can 697 00:25:14,149 --> 00:25:11,760 come up with hypotheses and things all 698 00:25:17,269 --> 00:25:14,159 day long and it's fun speculation but 699 00:25:19,430 --> 00:25:17,279 the key is and one thing eric and i 700 00:25:21,350 --> 00:25:19,440 just drive home on this is you have to 701 00:25:23,190 --> 00:25:21,360 follow the scientific method with this 702 00:25:25,110 --> 00:25:23,200 and if it's not repeatable if it's not 703 00:25:28,149 --> 00:25:25,120 something you can experiment or verify 704 00:25:30,149 --> 00:25:28,159 then it's no good to anybody so if i say 705 00:25:31,269 --> 00:25:30,159 oh it might be an alien spacecraft uh 706 00:25:33,029 --> 00:25:31,279 buried under the ground 707 00:25:34,950 --> 00:25:33,039 well if i can't do an experiment to look 708 00:25:35,750 --> 00:25:34,960 and see if there's an alien spacecraft 709 00:25:37,029 --> 00:25:35,760 buried 710 00:25:38,390 --> 00:25:37,039 then it does me no good people say oh 711 00:25:39,269 --> 00:25:38,400 well no you didn't dig deep enough it's 712 00:25:41,590 --> 00:25:39,279 two miles deep 713 00:25:42,549 --> 00:25:41,600 well that does me no good that's like 714 00:25:44,149 --> 00:25:42,559 saying it's magic 715 00:25:45,669 --> 00:25:44,159 because i can't find it i can't do an 716 00:25:47,269 --> 00:25:45,679 experiment to do that 717 00:25:49,269 --> 00:25:47,279 so what we do is look for 718 00:25:50,950 --> 00:25:49,279 phenomenologies that we can test 719 00:25:53,669 --> 00:25:50,960 and repeat and let me tell you this 720 00:25:55,430 --> 00:25:53,679 season on secret skinwalker ranch 721 00:25:56,950 --> 00:25:55,440 is the first time that we've now done a 722 00:25:58,950 --> 00:25:56,960 couple of different experiments 723 00:26:00,149 --> 00:25:58,960 on two different occasions and got 724 00:26:05,750 --> 00:26:00,159 repeatable 725 00:26:07,269 --> 00:26:05,760 i think it's an amazing thing it tells 726 00:26:09,990 --> 00:26:07,279 us there's something here 727 00:26:10,470 --> 00:26:10,000 and we're beginning to i'm not going to 728 00:26:12,789 --> 00:26:10,480 say 729 00:26:14,310 --> 00:26:12,799 figure out how to turn it on but we're 730 00:26:15,669 --> 00:26:14,320 beginning to at least figure out how to 731 00:26:18,789 --> 00:26:15,679 observe it 732 00:26:21,029 --> 00:26:18,799 yeah i was i was reading a an interview 733 00:26:25,590 --> 00:26:21,039 that linda molten how did with 734 00:26:27,750 --> 00:26:25,600 the sherman uh mr sherman back in 1996 735 00:26:28,630 --> 00:26:27,760 and it was talking he was talking about 736 00:26:31,510 --> 00:26:28,640 seeing 737 00:26:32,870 --> 00:26:31,520 like a box come out of a box a box like 738 00:26:34,710 --> 00:26:32,880 floating object 739 00:26:37,430 --> 00:26:34,720 and then he also they also talked about 740 00:26:40,630 --> 00:26:37,440 these things coming out of the portals 741 00:26:41,269 --> 00:26:40,640 um and it's such a bizarre thing and and 742 00:26:44,549 --> 00:26:41,279 hard to 743 00:26:44,950 --> 00:26:44,559 imagine uh what could possibly be going 744 00:26:46,549 --> 00:26:44,960 on 745 00:26:48,789 --> 00:26:46,559 and i know there's other things you know 746 00:26:50,710 --> 00:26:48,799 the large animals and 747 00:26:52,630 --> 00:26:50,720 the all these other type of things that 748 00:26:55,750 --> 00:26:52,640 have happened the things moved 749 00:26:58,149 --> 00:26:55,760 and all that has anyone ever like thrown 750 00:27:00,310 --> 00:26:58,159 the idea of the possibility of something 751 00:27:01,190 --> 00:27:00,320 like interdimensional or anything like 752 00:27:03,669 --> 00:27:01,200 that has that 753 00:27:04,310 --> 00:27:03,679 been a topic oh yeah we you know we've 754 00:27:06,070 --> 00:27:04,320 got a 755 00:27:07,750 --> 00:27:06,080 white board and a chalkboard around 756 00:27:09,669 --> 00:27:07,760 there and we sit around after 757 00:27:11,669 --> 00:27:09,679 all the camera guys go home and we draw 758 00:27:13,029 --> 00:27:11,679 out ideas so you know if it's a wormhole 759 00:27:14,630 --> 00:27:13,039 connected to universes 760 00:27:17,190 --> 00:27:14,640 what would happen would we get a signal 761 00:27:20,630 --> 00:27:17,200 like this but if you can't test it 762 00:27:22,230 --> 00:27:20,640 again it's just fun right and so 763 00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:22,240 sure there could be all sorts that we've 764 00:27:25,990 --> 00:27:23,760 got uh local 765 00:27:27,430 --> 00:27:26,000 religious leaders from the various 766 00:27:30,789 --> 00:27:27,440 native tribes 767 00:27:32,789 --> 00:27:30,799 telling us about uh mythologies of 768 00:27:34,149 --> 00:27:32,799 of beings that come through there and 769 00:27:36,789 --> 00:27:34,159 all sorts of things and 770 00:27:38,470 --> 00:27:36,799 so people i think people have observed 771 00:27:39,750 --> 00:27:38,480 things in this area for a long time 772 00:27:41,510 --> 00:27:39,760 and we're just now trying to get a 773 00:27:44,230 --> 00:27:41,520 handle on it yeah martin 774 00:27:44,870 --> 00:27:44,240 i'm asked all the time if i whether i 775 00:27:49,190 --> 00:27:44,880 believe this 776 00:27:51,590 --> 00:27:49,200 is this is uh you know extraterrestrial 777 00:27:52,870 --> 00:27:51,600 in nature is it interdimensional or is 778 00:27:54,389 --> 00:27:52,880 it spiritual 779 00:27:57,029 --> 00:27:54,399 you know are we dealing with angels and 780 00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:57,039 demons and you know the honest answer 781 00:28:01,990 --> 00:28:00,240 at this point based on all of the data 782 00:28:03,909 --> 00:28:02,000 and the observations is we could very 783 00:28:07,190 --> 00:28:03,919 well be seeing all of the above 784 00:28:09,190 --> 00:28:07,200 yeah yeah exhibited yeah right right 785 00:28:10,310 --> 00:28:09,200 uh that just reminded me that next week 786 00:28:13,590 --> 00:28:10,320 i have uh 787 00:28:16,149 --> 00:28:13,600 louis elizondo uh from the pentagon 788 00:28:17,269 --> 00:28:16,159 team on this uh podcast for the full two 789 00:28:20,070 --> 00:28:17,279 hour show 790 00:28:21,510 --> 00:28:20,080 and i heard him in another interview say 791 00:28:24,230 --> 00:28:21,520 that he was told by 792 00:28:25,990 --> 00:28:24,240 his superior that uh this is kind of a 793 00:28:27,430 --> 00:28:26,000 spoiler alert because i'm gonna ask him 794 00:28:29,990 --> 00:28:27,440 about it next week 795 00:28:31,430 --> 00:28:30,000 but there was some type of demonic 796 00:28:33,669 --> 00:28:31,440 connection which i thought was 797 00:28:35,590 --> 00:28:33,679 really really bizarre and it sounded to 798 00:28:39,190 --> 00:28:35,600 me like more of an opinion than 799 00:28:41,669 --> 00:28:39,200 um that's come out of a couple of 800 00:28:44,070 --> 00:28:41,679 different papers uh some from eric davis 801 00:28:46,389 --> 00:28:44,080 some from the other uh nids and bass 802 00:28:47,990 --> 00:28:46,399 guys that had uh done some of the atif 803 00:28:51,029 --> 00:28:48,000 work when lou was there 804 00:28:53,029 --> 00:28:51,039 uh all those are speculations and 805 00:28:54,070 --> 00:28:53,039 and opinions there was even a politician 806 00:28:56,549 --> 00:28:54,080 that one that 807 00:28:59,029 --> 00:28:56,559 was more inclined to believe in in 808 00:28:59,430 --> 00:28:59,039 demons and angels and so you can imagine 809 00:29:03,110 --> 00:28:59,440 that they 810 00:29:04,549 --> 00:29:03,120 to get funded right yeah so i'm not 811 00:29:05,029 --> 00:29:04,559 saying it was unethical i'm just saying 812 00:29:06,470 --> 00:29:05,039 that that 813 00:29:09,190 --> 00:29:06,480 they would say well we don't know it 814 00:29:10,870 --> 00:29:09,200 could be this right well 815 00:29:12,789 --> 00:29:10,880 like brandon just said we don't have 816 00:29:15,190 --> 00:29:12,799 enough evidence to tell you what it is 817 00:29:16,389 --> 00:29:15,200 but it's so scattered and so varying it 818 00:29:19,350 --> 00:29:16,399 could be all of it 819 00:29:20,470 --> 00:29:19,360 or nothing unless angels are none of it 820 00:29:22,549 --> 00:29:20,480 right 821 00:29:24,789 --> 00:29:22,559 yeah unless angels and demons are are 822 00:29:28,710 --> 00:29:24,799 piloting flying saucers 823 00:29:31,350 --> 00:29:28,720 and unidentified objects i i don't know 824 00:29:32,310 --> 00:29:31,360 yeah well you never know you never know 825 00:29:34,470 --> 00:29:32,320 um 826 00:29:35,430 --> 00:29:34,480 so travis i'd like to take a little 827 00:29:37,510 --> 00:29:35,440 little uh 828 00:29:38,470 --> 00:29:37,520 jag here and talk about your book that 829 00:29:40,310 --> 00:29:38,480 you wrote and 830 00:29:41,990 --> 00:29:40,320 um let's see i know you can bring the 831 00:29:43,750 --> 00:29:42,000 title up because it's right behind you 832 00:29:47,190 --> 00:29:43,760 can you grab your little poster 833 00:29:50,710 --> 00:29:47,200 to the book oh there you go 834 00:29:52,389 --> 00:29:50,720 uh alien invasion and um let's see the 835 00:29:55,110 --> 00:29:52,399 ultimate survival 836 00:29:55,430 --> 00:29:55,120 guide uh so i i had i had a listener 837 00:29:57,669 --> 00:29:55,440 just 838 00:29:59,430 --> 00:29:57,679 five minutes before i connected with you 839 00:30:01,590 --> 00:29:59,440 said hey ask travis 840 00:30:02,470 --> 00:30:01,600 you know can you break that down quickly 841 00:30:04,470 --> 00:30:02,480 on what 842 00:30:05,750 --> 00:30:04,480 what would we do in a situation like 843 00:30:08,630 --> 00:30:05,760 that 844 00:30:10,549 --> 00:30:08,640 yeah so the book was based on about uh 845 00:30:11,990 --> 00:30:10,559 three or four years of actual research 846 00:30:14,789 --> 00:30:12,000 on what we would do 847 00:30:16,789 --> 00:30:14,799 seriously from a military uh and civil 848 00:30:19,350 --> 00:30:16,799 aspect if we were invaded by 849 00:30:21,190 --> 00:30:19,360 an alien force and we looked at all 850 00:30:21,510 --> 00:30:21,200 sorts of different types of invasions 851 00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:21,520 but 852 00:30:25,590 --> 00:30:23,600 if you the one that was most fun to play 853 00:30:27,990 --> 00:30:25,600 with was what if they were 854 00:30:29,430 --> 00:30:28,000 a uh like an independence day kind of 855 00:30:31,750 --> 00:30:29,440 force comes here with all their 856 00:30:33,190 --> 00:30:31,760 their soldiers they attack and they're 857 00:30:33,909 --> 00:30:33,200 gonna take our planet and use it for 858 00:30:37,269 --> 00:30:33,919 whatever 859 00:30:40,470 --> 00:30:37,279 don't care about us and the we ran 860 00:30:43,190 --> 00:30:40,480 something like 147 uh computer uh 861 00:30:44,789 --> 00:30:43,200 scenarios we have red versus blue forces 862 00:30:46,549 --> 00:30:44,799 and where we're of course the blue and 863 00:30:48,389 --> 00:30:46,559 they're the red forces and they had 864 00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:48,399 forced multipliers with shields and ray 865 00:30:53,909 --> 00:30:51,360 guns and and teleporters and all that 866 00:30:54,789 --> 00:30:53,919 and the only situation that we didn't 867 00:30:57,830 --> 00:30:54,799 pretty much become 868 00:31:00,230 --> 00:30:57,840 extinct within the first few hours uh 869 00:31:01,990 --> 00:31:00,240 was if we managed to dig in and have 870 00:31:05,909 --> 00:31:02,000 enough survivors 871 00:31:09,190 --> 00:31:05,919 uh and then we put uh every 872 00:31:11,350 --> 00:31:09,200 fertile female on fertility drugs 873 00:31:13,269 --> 00:31:11,360 uh having you know pregnant with 874 00:31:15,430 --> 00:31:13,279 triplets and every male older 875 00:31:16,870 --> 00:31:15,440 like 12 years and older in the fighting 876 00:31:20,230 --> 00:31:16,880 and every female who wasn't 877 00:31:23,190 --> 00:31:20,240 um fertile was fighting also 878 00:31:23,830 --> 00:31:23,200 and it took something like 40 years in a 879 00:31:26,549 --> 00:31:23,840 um 880 00:31:27,669 --> 00:31:26,559 like an afghan soviet war type situation 881 00:31:29,990 --> 00:31:27,679 a scenario 882 00:31:32,070 --> 00:31:30,000 for humanity to make it cumbersome 883 00:31:33,110 --> 00:31:32,080 enough for the aliens to pack up and 884 00:31:35,830 --> 00:31:33,120 leave 885 00:31:36,389 --> 00:31:35,840 uh you know just it was a nuisance kind 886 00:31:38,310 --> 00:31:36,399 of thing 887 00:31:40,470 --> 00:31:38,320 but again that that's only one out of 888 00:31:40,870 --> 00:31:40,480 like 100 something scenarios we came up 889 00:31:43,190 --> 00:31:40,880 with 890 00:31:45,669 --> 00:31:43,200 there's infinite numbers of scenarios 891 00:31:47,590 --> 00:31:45,679 but the idea is we're not prepared 892 00:31:49,509 --> 00:31:47,600 we can't even get to low earth orbit 893 00:31:50,389 --> 00:31:49,519 without taking a month to get ready to 894 00:31:51,830 --> 00:31:50,399 do it 895 00:31:53,509 --> 00:31:51,840 you know our space suits are like 896 00:31:55,190 --> 00:31:53,519 balloons that we're inside of we don't 897 00:31:57,430 --> 00:31:55,200 have iron man suits 898 00:31:58,389 --> 00:31:57,440 we don't have ray guns and infinite 899 00:32:01,430 --> 00:31:58,399 magazine 900 00:32:03,110 --> 00:32:01,440 firearms and uh you know you you name it 901 00:32:03,430 --> 00:32:03,120 we don't have it we're not prepared for 902 00:32:05,430 --> 00:32:03,440 it 903 00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:05,440 and just think how bad an earthquake or 904 00:32:10,870 --> 00:32:07,440 a tornado or a hurricane 905 00:32:14,549 --> 00:32:10,880 affects our civil defense uh you know 906 00:32:16,389 --> 00:32:14,559 if we had a huge onslaught even invasion 907 00:32:17,990 --> 00:32:16,399 our civil mechanisms would just 908 00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:18,000 completely collapse 909 00:32:21,350 --> 00:32:20,240 and that's sort of the the not to be 910 00:32:23,509 --> 00:32:21,360 dystopian 911 00:32:25,990 --> 00:32:23,519 we what we offer as a solution is we 912 00:32:29,269 --> 00:32:26,000 need a an organization now 913 00:32:31,430 --> 00:32:29,279 uh to be looking into what science and 914 00:32:33,110 --> 00:32:31,440 technology and infrastructure pieces do 915 00:32:34,389 --> 00:32:33,120 we need to be adding 916 00:32:36,789 --> 00:32:34,399 that would protect us from things like 917 00:32:39,909 --> 00:32:36,799 an incoming asteroid you know 918 00:32:42,070 --> 00:32:39,919 uh super weather outbreaks uh 919 00:32:43,110 --> 00:32:42,080 things like that and it would help us in 920 00:32:46,389 --> 00:32:43,120 the event of something 921 00:32:48,789 --> 00:32:46,399 intelligently directed really 922 00:32:49,830 --> 00:32:48,799 well that's that's great thanks for 923 00:32:52,630 --> 00:32:49,840 sharing that 924 00:32:53,990 --> 00:32:52,640 and so we're right at the end i i 925 00:32:55,029 --> 00:32:54,000 appreciate you guys spending a little 926 00:32:58,789 --> 00:32:55,039 extra time 927 00:32:59,830 --> 00:32:58,799 and uh tune into the history channel 928 00:33:01,269 --> 00:32:59,840 tonight and watch the secret of 929 00:33:03,990 --> 00:33:01,279 skinwalker ranch premiere 930 00:33:05,350 --> 00:33:04,000 right that's right it's ten o'clock nine 931 00:33:07,830 --> 00:33:05,360 central right 932 00:33:08,789 --> 00:33:07,840 on the bigger channel yeah right thank 933 00:33:10,950 --> 00:33:08,799 you so much 934 00:33:11,909 --> 00:33:10,960 that's just tonight for the premiere i 935 00:33:14,149 --> 00:33:11,919 think for the 936 00:33:15,350 --> 00:33:14,159 the weeks to come i think it it shifts 937 00:33:17,909 --> 00:33:15,360 into the 938 00:33:19,190 --> 00:33:17,919 the uh into an hour earlier position 939 00:33:22,950 --> 00:33:19,200 into the same position 940 00:33:25,190 --> 00:33:22,960 of uh oak island yeah yes oh i see 941 00:33:28,149 --> 00:33:25,200 just one quick question for you brandon 942 00:33:31,990 --> 00:33:28,159 any regrets buying the property 943 00:33:33,669 --> 00:33:32,000 uh in general no i mean i i'm 944 00:33:35,430 --> 00:33:33,679 i think this could very well be the 945 00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:35,440 greatest science project of our time and 946 00:33:41,350 --> 00:33:36,960 i don't regret it i 947 00:33:43,190 --> 00:33:41,360 i i my whole world has been changed my 948 00:33:46,630 --> 00:33:43,200 world view and my perception 949 00:33:48,630 --> 00:33:46,640 of what is reality yeah what is real 950 00:33:50,310 --> 00:33:48,640 has been turned upside down by what i 951 00:33:51,990 --> 00:33:50,320 have witnessed and what the team 952 00:33:53,750 --> 00:33:52,000 has recorded and witnessed and we're 953 00:33:57,110 --> 00:33:53,760 talking hard data 954 00:33:59,909 --> 00:33:57,120 um that we continue to 955 00:34:01,509 --> 00:33:59,919 to gather regarding the diversity of 956 00:34:03,990 --> 00:34:01,519 phenomena out there and 957 00:34:06,310 --> 00:34:04,000 i no i think we're just getting warmed 958 00:34:08,790 --> 00:34:06,320 up and just scratching the surface 959 00:34:10,149 --> 00:34:08,800 i think you're right yeah yeah well 960 00:34:12,790 --> 00:34:10,159 hopefully everyone will stay 961 00:34:13,190 --> 00:34:12,800 safe and nothing dramatic will happen 962 00:34:14,790 --> 00:34:13,200 but 963 00:34:16,470 --> 00:34:14,800 it's it's really very interesting that 964 00:34:18,629 --> 00:34:16,480 place is so intriguing 965 00:34:20,149 --> 00:34:18,639 and thank you both so much and good luck 966 00:34:21,669 --> 00:34:20,159 with this season and hope you make it 967 00:34:24,629 --> 00:34:21,679 back for season three 968 00:34:25,270 --> 00:34:24,639 hey thanks for having us all right okay 969 00:34:26,710 --> 00:34:25,280 take care 970 00:34:28,790 --> 00:34:26,720 all right we'll be right back with our 971 00:34:32,869 --> 00:34:28,800 other guests coming right up mark fian 972 00:34:33,899 --> 00:34:32,879 fioren help me fiontino thank you very 973 00:35:02,870 --> 00:34:33,909 much we'll be right back 974 00:35:06,069 --> 00:35:05,750 hey welcome to the show mark hello thank 975 00:35:11,109 --> 00:35:06,079 you 976 00:35:13,349 --> 00:35:11,119 very much and thanks for uh 977 00:35:15,109 --> 00:35:13,359 hanging in there a little extra time now 978 00:35:16,550 --> 00:35:15,119 i can see that i have some type of 979 00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:16,560 phenomenon must have to do with 980 00:35:21,349 --> 00:35:18,560 skinwalker ranch um 981 00:35:22,710 --> 00:35:21,359 with my camera is going bright and dim 982 00:35:24,870 --> 00:35:22,720 bright and dim 983 00:35:26,390 --> 00:35:24,880 and i'm wondering if i can get um some 984 00:35:27,670 --> 00:35:26,400 lights off maybe that might help a 985 00:35:28,790 --> 00:35:27,680 little bit i don't understand what's 986 00:35:31,670 --> 00:35:28,800 happening but anyway 987 00:35:33,910 --> 00:35:31,680 thanks so much for uh for uh joining us 988 00:35:37,190 --> 00:35:33,920 again and thank you for being patient 989 00:35:38,550 --> 00:35:37,200 and uh let's see uh let's hear a little 990 00:35:41,829 --> 00:35:38,560 bit about yourself 991 00:35:43,829 --> 00:35:41,839 uh first of all um i understand that uh 992 00:35:44,950 --> 00:35:43,839 from a very early age you and you were 993 00:35:47,750 --> 00:35:44,960 very intrigued with 994 00:35:48,790 --> 00:35:47,760 um albert einstein and i just wanted to 995 00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:48,800 find out a little bit 996 00:35:52,630 --> 00:35:52,160 um about your background and what got 997 00:36:01,270 --> 00:35:52,640 you 998 00:36:03,109 --> 00:36:01,280 sure it's it's a lifetime of experiences 999 00:36:04,550 --> 00:36:03,119 it's hard to go through a mall but it 1000 00:36:06,710 --> 00:36:04,560 started with that 1001 00:36:08,870 --> 00:36:06,720 one instance with while i was in 1002 00:36:10,870 --> 00:36:08,880 catechism school at the age of 10 where 1003 00:36:12,790 --> 00:36:10,880 they asked us to go 1004 00:36:14,230 --> 00:36:12,800 the children to ask you know they asked 1005 00:36:18,230 --> 00:36:14,240 us you know 1006 00:36:21,030 --> 00:36:18,240 why don't you all report on a um 1007 00:36:24,069 --> 00:36:21,040 a saint that's born on your birthday so 1008 00:36:25,589 --> 00:36:24,079 i went home to look and in 1965 there 1009 00:36:27,510 --> 00:36:25,599 was no internet there was 1010 00:36:29,270 --> 00:36:27,520 you know it was really hard to look up 1011 00:36:31,510 --> 00:36:29,280 do a search for 1012 00:36:32,790 --> 00:36:31,520 something of that nature yeah you know 1013 00:36:35,109 --> 00:36:32,800 you asked your parents 1014 00:36:37,670 --> 00:36:35,119 and uh i did a little that and you know 1015 00:36:40,790 --> 00:36:37,680 i had encyclopedia britannica 1016 00:36:42,870 --> 00:36:40,800 uh and what i wound up doing is i just 1017 00:36:43,990 --> 00:36:42,880 went to the calendar that was hanging in 1018 00:36:46,230 --> 00:36:44,000 our kitchen and 1019 00:36:47,349 --> 00:36:46,240 looked on my birthday which is march 1020 00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:47,359 14th and 1021 00:36:50,630 --> 00:36:49,200 found that albert einstein was born on 1022 00:36:53,829 --> 00:36:50,640 that birthday 1023 00:36:55,589 --> 00:36:53,839 so wow ringo's ringo stars on my 1024 00:36:59,109 --> 00:36:55,599 birthday that's as good as i got 1025 00:37:02,069 --> 00:36:59,119 yeah so yeah that's who i 1026 00:37:03,030 --> 00:37:02,079 i did the report on i guess i i can't 1027 00:37:05,910 --> 00:37:03,040 actually remember 1028 00:37:07,430 --> 00:37:05,920 doing the report but i remember 1029 00:37:09,589 --> 00:37:07,440 researching opening 1030 00:37:10,870 --> 00:37:09,599 this encyclopedia reading about albert 1031 00:37:13,430 --> 00:37:10,880 einstein 1032 00:37:15,430 --> 00:37:13,440 and in the process uh there was a 1033 00:37:16,310 --> 00:37:15,440 section that talked about the unified 1034 00:37:18,950 --> 00:37:16,320 field theory 1035 00:37:20,790 --> 00:37:18,960 and when i read that that that really 1036 00:37:22,710 --> 00:37:20,800 changed my life because i thought this 1037 00:37:25,670 --> 00:37:22,720 thing this makes more sense than 1038 00:37:27,349 --> 00:37:25,680 anything i've ever heard 1039 00:37:29,589 --> 00:37:27,359 and it's kind of odd that i would think 1040 00:37:33,670 --> 00:37:29,599 that at the age of 10 but still 1041 00:37:36,470 --> 00:37:33,680 it struck me uh very deeply profoundly 1042 00:37:37,670 --> 00:37:36,480 and i it started a lifetime interest in 1043 00:37:40,069 --> 00:37:37,680 science 1044 00:37:42,069 --> 00:37:40,079 which eventually as i got older you know 1045 00:37:45,430 --> 00:37:42,079 into the teen years i got into 1046 00:37:47,349 --> 00:37:45,440 interested in things about ufos 1047 00:37:49,030 --> 00:37:47,359 because i thought if anybody knows about 1048 00:37:49,430 --> 00:37:49,040 the unified field theory and how it 1049 00:37:52,069 --> 00:37:49,440 works 1050 00:37:53,030 --> 00:37:52,079 obviously is people who are coming from 1051 00:37:56,069 --> 00:37:53,040 other planets 1052 00:37:59,030 --> 00:37:56,079 they must have discovered a way to 1053 00:38:00,870 --> 00:37:59,040 fly faster than the speed of light even 1054 00:38:02,870 --> 00:38:00,880 back then i knew that the speed of light 1055 00:38:06,069 --> 00:38:02,880 wasn't really going to be fast enough 1056 00:38:06,870 --> 00:38:06,079 to get us anywhere so i would read about 1057 00:38:09,670 --> 00:38:06,880 ufos 1058 00:38:12,150 --> 00:38:09,680 and try to understand the technology the 1059 00:38:15,510 --> 00:38:12,160 anti-gravity technology 1060 00:38:17,990 --> 00:38:15,520 and uh then later on in life i i 1061 00:38:21,190 --> 00:38:18,000 achieved some things 1062 00:38:24,630 --> 00:38:21,200 at where i worked you know some 1063 00:38:27,190 --> 00:38:24,640 certain successes and technology and 1064 00:38:28,390 --> 00:38:27,200 helping a student one time with a math 1065 00:38:31,190 --> 00:38:28,400 problem 1066 00:38:32,950 --> 00:38:31,200 in which in this particular case finite 1067 00:38:34,150 --> 00:38:32,960 mathematics problem and i helped them 1068 00:38:37,910 --> 00:38:34,160 solve 1069 00:38:40,150 --> 00:38:37,920 and discover a new formula and 1070 00:38:42,550 --> 00:38:40,160 when he told this professor he showed 1071 00:38:44,829 --> 00:38:42,560 him hey this guy figured it out on 1072 00:38:46,790 --> 00:38:44,839 one night at home working on his 1073 00:38:49,190 --> 00:38:46,800 computer 1074 00:38:51,750 --> 00:38:49,200 he gave me the he showed me the example 1075 00:38:54,069 --> 00:38:51,760 he was working on he had solved it in 1076 00:38:56,630 --> 00:38:54,079 the second third and fourth dimension 1077 00:38:58,550 --> 00:38:56,640 but this thing would go on evolving into 1078 00:38:59,670 --> 00:38:58,560 all the dimensions and when i say 1079 00:39:04,230 --> 00:38:59,680 dimensions i mean 1080 00:39:06,550 --> 00:39:04,240 powers of two um modulo two mathematics 1081 00:39:09,109 --> 00:39:06,560 and uh i looked at his equation that he 1082 00:39:10,230 --> 00:39:09,119 had so far and as soon as i looked at it 1083 00:39:12,870 --> 00:39:10,240 i saw 1084 00:39:14,230 --> 00:39:12,880 a pattern in the equation itself a 1085 00:39:16,790 --> 00:39:14,240 geometry 1086 00:39:18,550 --> 00:39:16,800 forming which i guess he just didn't see 1087 00:39:20,230 --> 00:39:18,560 so i went home and i said i can solve 1088 00:39:23,510 --> 00:39:20,240 these other dimensions 1089 00:39:26,310 --> 00:39:23,520 the fifth six whatever and i'll show you 1090 00:39:26,630 --> 00:39:26,320 if i can figure it out how to to solve 1091 00:39:29,670 --> 00:39:26,640 for 1092 00:39:31,750 --> 00:39:29,680 any dimension and um 1093 00:39:33,349 --> 00:39:31,760 sure enough i went home i put a little 1094 00:39:36,310 --> 00:39:33,359 program together to test 1095 00:39:37,030 --> 00:39:36,320 the the new formulas make sure that they 1096 00:39:39,750 --> 00:39:37,040 outputted 1097 00:39:40,230 --> 00:39:39,760 what he was looking for which was every 1098 00:39:42,790 --> 00:39:40,240 number 1099 00:39:45,349 --> 00:39:42,800 in that dimension that's possible no 1100 00:39:49,030 --> 00:39:45,359 particular order but it doesn't repeat 1101 00:39:51,910 --> 00:39:49,040 until the very end so that was 1102 00:39:52,470 --> 00:39:51,920 very easily done i did the fifth in 1103 00:39:54,870 --> 00:39:52,480 about an 1104 00:39:57,670 --> 00:39:54,880 hour a little over an hour then each 1105 00:40:01,109 --> 00:39:57,680 dimension thereafter which goes up 1106 00:40:05,349 --> 00:40:01,119 higher and higher uh in numbers 1107 00:40:09,270 --> 00:40:05,359 doubling uh every time by a power of two 1108 00:40:12,790 --> 00:40:09,280 um it gets to be a very long 1109 00:40:14,150 --> 00:40:12,800 equation and um because it has so many 1110 00:40:16,150 --> 00:40:14,160 permutations 1111 00:40:17,510 --> 00:40:16,160 so i was able to solve the fifth sixth 1112 00:40:20,309 --> 00:40:17,520 seventh and eighth i said 1113 00:40:20,710 --> 00:40:20,319 well i could see the pattern here the 1114 00:40:23,910 --> 00:40:20,720 the 1115 00:40:26,309 --> 00:40:23,920 actual formula switches in this geometry 1116 00:40:28,150 --> 00:40:26,319 it's symmetrical as it grows 1117 00:40:29,829 --> 00:40:28,160 so i showed him that and he said oh my 1118 00:40:31,990 --> 00:40:29,839 god i could 1119 00:40:33,829 --> 00:40:32,000 you you got it so he went back to his 1120 00:40:35,349 --> 00:40:33,839 professor and his professor told him 1121 00:40:38,790 --> 00:40:35,359 that 1122 00:40:42,069 --> 00:40:38,800 this is 1123 00:40:44,710 --> 00:40:42,079 not in any book anywhere and 1124 00:40:46,710 --> 00:40:44,720 that's basically the day and was around 1125 00:40:50,470 --> 00:40:46,720 1993 or so 1126 00:40:53,750 --> 00:40:50,480 that i decided to to seriously 1127 00:40:55,510 --> 00:40:53,760 try and in an attempt to do what 1128 00:40:58,710 --> 00:40:55,520 has now become the theory of super 1129 00:41:01,270 --> 00:40:58,720 relativity which is now the unification 1130 00:41:03,430 --> 00:41:01,280 of electromagnetism to gravity which is 1131 00:41:05,910 --> 00:41:03,440 what einstein was working on 1132 00:41:06,870 --> 00:41:05,920 so i decided hey if i could do new math 1133 00:41:09,670 --> 00:41:06,880 like newton 1134 00:41:11,430 --> 00:41:09,680 and einstein well maybe i got a shot and 1135 00:41:13,349 --> 00:41:11,440 that's how i got into it and 1136 00:41:16,390 --> 00:41:13,359 all those years i kept studying and 1137 00:41:20,390 --> 00:41:16,400 reading about it this is a hobby mainly 1138 00:41:23,270 --> 00:41:20,400 but it was never off of my mind 1139 00:41:24,790 --> 00:41:23,280 now let's uh for the person that's not 1140 00:41:27,670 --> 00:41:24,800 skilled in a lot of what you're 1141 00:41:29,589 --> 00:41:27,680 talking about and uh and that includes 1142 00:41:33,270 --> 00:41:29,599 me 1143 00:41:34,470 --> 00:41:33,280 equations and things like that first of 1144 00:41:35,910 --> 00:41:34,480 all do you have 1145 00:41:38,230 --> 00:41:35,920 you're saying it's a hobby but do you 1146 00:41:41,430 --> 00:41:38,240 have like a math background 1147 00:41:44,710 --> 00:41:41,440 no no that's that's the weird 1148 00:41:47,109 --> 00:41:44,720 obscure strange thing about this 1149 00:41:48,590 --> 00:41:47,119 i'm not even particularly that good at 1150 00:41:50,069 --> 00:41:48,600 math i mean i i 1151 00:41:53,510 --> 00:41:50,079 [Music] 1152 00:41:54,950 --> 00:41:53,520 up to trigonometry in school i liked it 1153 00:41:58,230 --> 00:41:54,960 i think it's interesting 1154 00:42:00,230 --> 00:41:58,240 i just look at it all math is is a 1155 00:42:03,990 --> 00:42:00,240 language that describes 1156 00:42:07,190 --> 00:42:04,000 reality things don't happen because of 1157 00:42:10,710 --> 00:42:07,200 math math describes things 1158 00:42:12,790 --> 00:42:10,720 about how they happen and that's 1159 00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:12,800 the way i used it if you're going to 1160 00:42:17,109 --> 00:42:13,920 derive 1161 00:42:19,349 --> 00:42:17,119 equations you have to have a model 1162 00:42:20,470 --> 00:42:19,359 a model in your mind something that 1163 00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:20,480 you're imagining 1164 00:42:24,870 --> 00:42:22,560 how it works and then you do the math 1165 00:42:28,309 --> 00:42:24,880 from that model that's what einstein did 1166 00:42:31,510 --> 00:42:28,319 and i followed that path and so my 1167 00:42:34,390 --> 00:42:31,520 my math is very specialized 1168 00:42:35,349 --> 00:42:34,400 and i've i've hired physicists to train 1169 00:42:37,910 --> 00:42:35,359 me 1170 00:42:38,870 --> 00:42:37,920 in the background when i you know work 1171 00:42:41,990 --> 00:42:38,880 with a formula 1172 00:42:46,150 --> 00:42:42,000 we i have them help me derive it 1173 00:42:48,710 --> 00:42:46,160 so i understand exactly what it means 1174 00:42:49,829 --> 00:42:48,720 that's the key to understanding math and 1175 00:42:52,950 --> 00:42:49,839 formulas 1176 00:42:55,589 --> 00:42:52,960 and so for my project the the work i'm 1177 00:42:58,790 --> 00:42:55,599 doing now i'm actually writing up 1178 00:43:01,670 --> 00:42:58,800 a document a research paper 1179 00:43:02,550 --> 00:43:01,680 to submit to uh journals and stuff at 1180 00:43:06,069 --> 00:43:02,560 this point 1181 00:43:08,550 --> 00:43:06,079 i have to do that as a protect my ideas 1182 00:43:09,430 --> 00:43:08,560 and and so forth i have everything kind 1183 00:43:12,230 --> 00:43:09,440 of loosely 1184 00:43:13,270 --> 00:43:12,240 put together in the book but not as 1185 00:43:15,990 --> 00:43:13,280 formal 1186 00:43:17,190 --> 00:43:16,000 as what i'm doing right now which i'm 1187 00:43:20,470 --> 00:43:17,200 going through the math 1188 00:43:21,589 --> 00:43:20,480 and explaining it step by step the math 1189 00:43:24,630 --> 00:43:21,599 that i do 1190 00:43:26,790 --> 00:43:24,640 predicts particle masses which has 1191 00:43:30,150 --> 00:43:26,800 really never been done before 1192 00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:30,160 and and i i got it to work so 1193 00:43:35,349 --> 00:43:32,800 i'm shaking my head thinking how to how 1194 00:43:39,430 --> 00:43:35,359 the heck can you keep doing this 1195 00:43:41,510 --> 00:43:39,440 it mystifies me but i do have enough 1196 00:43:42,630 --> 00:43:41,520 information and understanding in my 1197 00:43:44,870 --> 00:43:42,640 brain 1198 00:43:45,670 --> 00:43:44,880 to pull it off somehow and i'm just 1199 00:43:47,670 --> 00:43:45,680 going with it 1200 00:43:49,190 --> 00:43:47,680 i'm just it's like an adventure at this 1201 00:43:53,270 --> 00:43:49,200 point 1202 00:43:55,190 --> 00:43:53,280 and what are uh i mean these uh 1203 00:43:57,750 --> 00:43:55,200 well i would assume would be some type 1204 00:44:00,630 --> 00:43:57,760 of breakthroughs or whatever 1205 00:44:01,109 --> 00:44:00,640 seems like would be profound in the 1206 00:44:04,710 --> 00:44:01,119 world 1207 00:44:06,790 --> 00:44:04,720 for its uh possibilities and uses 1208 00:44:08,470 --> 00:44:06,800 and so do you see something going in 1209 00:44:11,349 --> 00:44:08,480 that direction 1210 00:44:13,750 --> 00:44:11,359 yeah the main thrust of this is to get 1211 00:44:18,470 --> 00:44:13,760 to antigravity 1212 00:44:21,670 --> 00:44:18,480 einstein's path 1213 00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:21,680 where basically electromagnetism and 1214 00:44:24,790 --> 00:44:22,800 gravity emerges 1215 00:44:26,230 --> 00:44:24,800 aspects of a single fundamental field 1216 00:44:27,109 --> 00:44:26,240 that's the unified field theory 1217 00:44:28,950 --> 00:44:27,119 description 1218 00:44:31,190 --> 00:44:28,960 i worked on that if you want to 1219 00:44:34,470 --> 00:44:31,200 understand anti-gravity 1220 00:44:37,430 --> 00:44:34,480 you better understand gravity and so i 1221 00:44:38,790 --> 00:44:37,440 decided to figure it out to work it out 1222 00:44:42,230 --> 00:44:38,800 and understand it and all 1223 00:44:42,470 --> 00:44:42,240 really gravity is according to my theory 1224 00:44:46,710 --> 00:44:42,480 and 1225 00:44:49,190 --> 00:44:46,720 it's really a contraction 1226 00:44:50,230 --> 00:44:49,200 of space that's what forms the 1227 00:44:53,109 --> 00:44:50,240 gravitational 1228 00:44:55,190 --> 00:44:53,119 field it's it's not really that hard for 1229 00:44:57,510 --> 00:44:55,200 anybody to comprehend but 1230 00:44:59,510 --> 00:44:57,520 it's almost blasphemous to say that to 1231 00:45:03,030 --> 00:44:59,520 some physicists they get 1232 00:45:05,750 --> 00:45:03,040 annoyed at that idea uh of thinking of 1233 00:45:08,710 --> 00:45:05,760 space is a real physical thing 1234 00:45:10,230 --> 00:45:08,720 and in my book i i prove it beyond any 1235 00:45:13,270 --> 00:45:10,240 shadow of a doubt 1236 00:45:16,230 --> 00:45:13,280 the ether exists space isn't a real 1237 00:45:20,150 --> 00:45:16,240 physical thing it's a quasi-elastic 1238 00:45:23,030 --> 00:45:20,160 solid and um and i build from that 1239 00:45:26,069 --> 00:45:23,040 so yeah what i get to eventually is 1240 00:45:30,069 --> 00:45:26,079 anti-gravity and that's very useful 1241 00:45:33,109 --> 00:45:30,079 for um mankind and i want to help 1242 00:45:34,950 --> 00:45:33,119 mankind discover antigravity so i put 1243 00:45:36,470 --> 00:45:34,960 a chapter in the book i think it's the 1244 00:45:39,829 --> 00:45:36,480 last chapter where i i 1245 00:45:42,870 --> 00:45:39,839 described experiments we can do to prove 1246 00:45:45,190 --> 00:45:42,880 that magnetism is what will 1247 00:45:46,550 --> 00:45:45,200 cause antigravity and i mean powerful 1248 00:45:49,670 --> 00:45:46,560 magnetic fields 1249 00:45:53,109 --> 00:45:49,680 that have been noticed around ufos 1250 00:45:55,990 --> 00:45:53,119 for decades so that was a link i made 1251 00:45:57,829 --> 00:45:56,000 when i was a kid i said hey these guys 1252 00:45:59,589 --> 00:45:57,839 are going out with magnometers that 1253 00:46:02,550 --> 00:45:59,599 measures magnetic fields how come the 1254 00:46:05,750 --> 00:46:02,560 air force has taken magnometers to 1255 00:46:07,349 --> 00:46:05,760 ufo landing sites they must know 1256 00:46:10,470 --> 00:46:07,359 something 1257 00:46:13,510 --> 00:46:10,480 and i kept following that and over and 1258 00:46:15,910 --> 00:46:13,520 over again i found ufo in 1259 00:46:18,470 --> 00:46:15,920 reports where people are like a 1260 00:46:19,030 --> 00:46:18,480 physicist was looking at one through a 1261 00:46:21,990 --> 00:46:19,040 uh 1262 00:46:22,950 --> 00:46:22,000 polarized lens and they could see that 1263 00:46:26,309 --> 00:46:22,960 there was bands 1264 00:46:30,069 --> 00:46:26,319 of polarized light coming off of the ufo 1265 00:46:31,030 --> 00:46:30,079 that only happens with intense magnetic 1266 00:46:34,150 --> 00:46:31,040 fields 1267 00:46:36,950 --> 00:46:34,160 another uh person in belgium 1268 00:46:37,670 --> 00:46:36,960 uh the belgium triangle ufo took a 1269 00:46:40,470 --> 00:46:37,680 photograph 1270 00:46:42,790 --> 00:46:40,480 this was back before digital cam cameras 1271 00:46:45,510 --> 00:46:42,800 so this camera had the emulsion in it 1272 00:46:46,630 --> 00:46:45,520 and he was pretty close a physicist 1273 00:46:49,109 --> 00:46:46,640 analyzed that 1274 00:46:51,589 --> 00:46:49,119 photograph and found that the emulsion 1275 00:46:54,829 --> 00:46:51,599 was magnetized 1276 00:46:55,990 --> 00:46:54,839 clear evidence that ufo is putting out a 1277 00:46:59,190 --> 00:46:56,000 huge 1278 00:47:01,109 --> 00:46:59,200 magnetic field so what am i doing now 1279 00:47:03,270 --> 00:47:01,119 i'm trying to link that 1280 00:47:04,710 --> 00:47:03,280 into the scientific realm and i will 1281 00:47:08,230 --> 00:47:04,720 eventually 1282 00:47:10,309 --> 00:47:08,240 bring that a presentation forward 1283 00:47:12,470 --> 00:47:10,319 that i've already created and putting 1284 00:47:14,710 --> 00:47:12,480 the final touches on now 1285 00:47:16,150 --> 00:47:14,720 uh working with some animations and 1286 00:47:18,550 --> 00:47:16,160 graphics and stuff to help 1287 00:47:19,990 --> 00:47:18,560 people visualize pictures worth a 1288 00:47:23,670 --> 00:47:20,000 thousand words 1289 00:47:24,150 --> 00:47:23,680 and um that is the direction i'm going 1290 00:47:26,390 --> 00:47:24,160 to i 1291 00:47:28,069 --> 00:47:26,400 want to bring anti-gravity not only 1292 00:47:28,790 --> 00:47:28,079 anti-gravity because that's really not 1293 00:47:32,309 --> 00:47:28,800 enough 1294 00:47:34,470 --> 00:47:32,319 to get us to other planets we need to be 1295 00:47:37,109 --> 00:47:34,480 able to break the light speed barrier 1296 00:47:38,150 --> 00:47:37,119 and the solution for that is also in my 1297 00:47:41,510 --> 00:47:38,160 book 1298 00:47:44,630 --> 00:47:41,520 and the same technique that you use 1299 00:47:46,790 --> 00:47:44,640 to create an and gravity field creates 1300 00:47:51,190 --> 00:47:46,800 something called a slip wave 1301 00:47:54,309 --> 00:47:51,200 and the slip wave is a 1302 00:47:55,430 --> 00:47:54,319 gradient magnetic field that allows 1303 00:47:59,589 --> 00:47:55,440 propulsion 1304 00:48:02,390 --> 00:47:59,599 along with antigravity effects 1305 00:48:02,950 --> 00:48:02,400 but not only that but it biases the 1306 00:48:08,309 --> 00:48:02,960 space 1307 00:48:10,630 --> 00:48:08,319 can break the light speed barrier 1308 00:48:13,030 --> 00:48:10,640 and how does it do that well quite 1309 00:48:14,710 --> 00:48:13,040 simply thanks to james clerk maxwell we 1310 00:48:15,750 --> 00:48:14,720 discovered that the speed of light is 1311 00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:15,760 equal to 1312 00:48:20,630 --> 00:48:18,400 one over the square root of permittivity 1313 00:48:21,109 --> 00:48:20,640 times permeability what does that all 1314 00:48:24,230 --> 00:48:21,119 mean 1315 00:48:28,069 --> 00:48:24,240 permeability and 1316 00:48:29,829 --> 00:48:28,079 permittivity if you reduce those 1317 00:48:32,309 --> 00:48:29,839 and you can do this with a magnetic 1318 00:48:34,870 --> 00:48:32,319 field by stretching space 1319 00:48:37,109 --> 00:48:34,880 thinning it out those two properties 1320 00:48:40,630 --> 00:48:37,119 reduce then the speed of light 1321 00:48:41,589 --> 00:48:40,640 maximum value changes so as you reduce 1322 00:48:44,710 --> 00:48:41,599 it more and more 1323 00:48:45,670 --> 00:48:44,720 you can go any speed beyond the speed of 1324 00:48:47,910 --> 00:48:45,680 light you want 1325 00:48:49,750 --> 00:48:47,920 all the way up to infinitely fast which 1326 00:48:51,829 --> 00:48:49,760 i don't recommend 1327 00:48:53,430 --> 00:48:51,839 but that's how you get to other star 1328 00:48:55,670 --> 00:48:53,440 systems you don't go 1329 00:48:57,349 --> 00:48:55,680 at the speed of light you don't go eight 1330 00:49:00,549 --> 00:48:57,359 times like in star trek 1331 00:49:02,790 --> 00:49:00,559 that's ridiculously slow you go 50 1332 00:49:04,549 --> 00:49:02,800 000 times the speed of light you're 1333 00:49:06,069 --> 00:49:04,559 there in minutes if you're going to 1334 00:49:09,030 --> 00:49:06,079 proxima centauri 1335 00:49:10,390 --> 00:49:09,040 4.2 light years away you can get there 1336 00:49:13,430 --> 00:49:10,400 in a half an hour 1337 00:49:16,150 --> 00:49:13,440 going at 50 or 60 or 70 1338 00:49:17,750 --> 00:49:16,160 000 times the speed of light and that's 1339 00:49:19,670 --> 00:49:17,760 what we have to do 1340 00:49:21,109 --> 00:49:19,680 in order to get to other planets 1341 00:49:23,030 --> 00:49:21,119 colonize them 1342 00:49:24,950 --> 00:49:23,040 just in case something goes wrong here 1343 00:49:27,190 --> 00:49:24,960 on planet earth 1344 00:49:28,069 --> 00:49:27,200 so you think this you're you're thinking 1345 00:49:31,109 --> 00:49:28,079 this 1346 00:49:33,510 --> 00:49:31,119 technology or whatever can be 1347 00:49:35,190 --> 00:49:33,520 uh well let's say the physics can be 1348 00:49:36,470 --> 00:49:35,200 discovered i guess that's the best way 1349 00:49:40,150 --> 00:49:36,480 to put it 1350 00:49:41,750 --> 00:49:40,160 yeah this you know it does no good just 1351 00:49:44,950 --> 00:49:41,760 to talk about this stuff 1352 00:49:45,510 --> 00:49:44,960 and not i have to somehow someway 1353 00:49:48,870 --> 00:49:45,520 convince 1354 00:49:53,109 --> 00:49:48,880 people in authority uh 1355 00:49:54,790 --> 00:49:53,119 scientists that anti-gravity does exist 1356 00:49:56,710 --> 00:49:54,800 they have to take it out of their mind 1357 00:49:58,390 --> 00:49:56,720 and think oh that's science fiction 1358 00:50:01,030 --> 00:49:58,400 no that's going to be science real 1359 00:50:01,349 --> 00:50:01,040 that's way the normal world is going to 1360 00:50:04,069 --> 00:50:01,359 be 1361 00:50:05,190 --> 00:50:04,079 in the future and and so we're going to 1362 00:50:08,390 --> 00:50:05,200 have to 1363 00:50:11,750 --> 00:50:08,400 discover it i'm going to help 1364 00:50:13,030 --> 00:50:11,760 make that happen by putting uh the 1365 00:50:15,430 --> 00:50:13,040 evidence in my book 1366 00:50:16,230 --> 00:50:15,440 or not just in my book but on on this 1367 00:50:18,870 --> 00:50:16,240 paper 1368 00:50:19,829 --> 00:50:18,880 i'm gonna demonstrate how gravity is 1369 00:50:21,670 --> 00:50:19,839 formed 1370 00:50:23,349 --> 00:50:21,680 which has never been done which was what 1371 00:50:26,150 --> 00:50:23,359 einstein was working on 1372 00:50:26,870 --> 00:50:26,160 and his path and his way was the right 1373 00:50:30,069 --> 00:50:26,880 path 1374 00:50:31,270 --> 00:50:30,079 and i have him to thank along with james 1375 00:50:35,190 --> 00:50:31,280 clerk maxwell 1376 00:50:35,829 --> 00:50:35,200 newton uh faraday and hendrick antoon 1377 00:50:37,990 --> 00:50:35,839 lorenz 1378 00:50:38,870 --> 00:50:38,000 these five were the key people that 1379 00:50:41,990 --> 00:50:38,880 helped me 1380 00:50:44,549 --> 00:50:42,000 put this over the top so to speak so 1381 00:50:46,790 --> 00:50:44,559 yeah it's important that we discover 1382 00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:46,800 anti-gravity for all of earth 1383 00:50:53,190 --> 00:50:50,160 it's not just a nice fun thing that 1384 00:50:53,750 --> 00:50:53,200 we can make hovercraft and go to tahiti 1385 00:50:57,750 --> 00:50:53,760 in 1386 00:51:00,790 --> 00:50:57,760 but 1387 00:51:02,549 --> 00:51:00,800 um it's to getting to other planets it's 1388 00:51:05,990 --> 00:51:02,559 colonizing we could we can 1389 00:51:07,670 --> 00:51:06,000 easily set up something on mars 1390 00:51:09,349 --> 00:51:07,680 because we could get to mars in less 1391 00:51:10,710 --> 00:51:09,359 than 15 minutes 1392 00:51:12,870 --> 00:51:10,720 and you know you could start 1393 00:51:15,430 --> 00:51:12,880 transporting materials there and 1394 00:51:16,710 --> 00:51:15,440 terraforming or doing whatever you want 1395 00:51:18,790 --> 00:51:16,720 and and 1396 00:51:20,230 --> 00:51:18,800 that'll be our you know our our first 1397 00:51:23,030 --> 00:51:20,240 base that's away from 1398 00:51:24,309 --> 00:51:23,040 the earth other than the moon and well 1399 00:51:27,750 --> 00:51:24,319 um 1400 00:51:29,670 --> 00:51:27,760 sorry uh there yeah uh you know it just 1401 00:51:32,549 --> 00:51:29,680 seems to me you always hear about the 1402 00:51:33,990 --> 00:51:32,559 massive massive amounts of energy that 1403 00:51:35,990 --> 00:51:34,000 it would take for this 1404 00:51:37,670 --> 00:51:36,000 and i do have a question up on the 1405 00:51:38,549 --> 00:51:37,680 screen but before we answer that 1406 00:51:41,349 --> 00:51:38,559 question 1407 00:51:42,870 --> 00:51:41,359 um what is your answer to that i mean 1408 00:51:45,910 --> 00:51:42,880 that's the number one 1409 00:51:47,030 --> 00:51:45,920 thing that um a skeptic will say that we 1410 00:51:49,270 --> 00:51:47,040 can't possibly 1411 00:51:50,549 --> 00:51:49,280 be visited by ufos that are 1412 00:51:51,829 --> 00:51:50,559 extraterrestrial 1413 00:51:53,990 --> 00:51:51,839 because it would take way too much 1414 00:51:57,349 --> 00:51:54,000 energy for any type of craft to get here 1415 00:52:00,549 --> 00:51:57,359 and how do you answer that yeah that's 1416 00:52:03,910 --> 00:52:00,559 if you use the lorenz transformation 1417 00:52:05,030 --> 00:52:03,920 special relativity uh it says in there 1418 00:52:08,950 --> 00:52:05,040 as you approach 1419 00:52:12,150 --> 00:52:08,960 takes more and more energy 1420 00:52:14,470 --> 00:52:12,160 to push your spacecraft forward 1421 00:52:16,069 --> 00:52:14,480 that's a special case and what i'm 1422 00:52:17,349 --> 00:52:16,079 saying in my book is that special 1423 00:52:20,630 --> 00:52:17,359 relativity 1424 00:52:24,549 --> 00:52:20,640 needs to be extended it's a set of 1425 00:52:24,950 --> 00:52:24,559 equations that work for a space that is 1426 00:52:28,150 --> 00:52:24,960 not 1427 00:52:31,750 --> 00:52:28,160 biased what i'm talking about 1428 00:52:34,950 --> 00:52:31,760 is going right to the foundation 1429 00:52:37,589 --> 00:52:34,960 and enabling us to use this 1430 00:52:37,990 --> 00:52:37,599 magnetic field technology high magnetic 1431 00:52:40,390 --> 00:52:38,000 field 1432 00:52:42,390 --> 00:52:40,400 technology to change to the lorenz 1433 00:52:46,309 --> 00:52:42,400 transformations basically 1434 00:52:48,870 --> 00:52:46,319 by by changing the way we move matter 1435 00:52:50,790 --> 00:52:48,880 through space 1436 00:52:52,150 --> 00:52:50,800 that's where the the problem is as you 1437 00:52:54,870 --> 00:52:52,160 accelerate 1438 00:52:56,390 --> 00:52:54,880 for you know using normal rockets or 1439 00:52:58,309 --> 00:52:56,400 whatever to go in 1440 00:53:00,390 --> 00:52:58,319 it takes more and more energy and as you 1441 00:53:03,430 --> 00:53:00,400 approach the speed of light 1442 00:53:04,630 --> 00:53:03,440 the spaceship is interacting with the 1443 00:53:06,470 --> 00:53:04,640 space itself 1444 00:53:09,030 --> 00:53:06,480 and it's got like an inertial thing 1445 00:53:10,309 --> 00:53:09,040 going on as your mass is increasing 1446 00:53:13,190 --> 00:53:10,319 toward infinity 1447 00:53:14,390 --> 00:53:13,200 so it takes an infinite amount of energy 1448 00:53:15,990 --> 00:53:14,400 to push you forward 1449 00:53:18,150 --> 00:53:16,000 and you can't break the light speed 1450 00:53:21,030 --> 00:53:18,160 barrier but that's because the space 1451 00:53:24,069 --> 00:53:21,040 hasn't been biased it hasn't been 1452 00:53:24,390 --> 00:53:24,079 bent in a way that allows you to break 1453 00:53:26,950 --> 00:53:24,400 the 1454 00:53:28,069 --> 00:53:26,960 light speed barrier and in so doing you 1455 00:53:30,069 --> 00:53:28,079 don't need 1456 00:53:32,150 --> 00:53:30,079 you know huge amounts of energy you need 1457 00:53:34,549 --> 00:53:32,160 a lot you need a lot of current 1458 00:53:36,549 --> 00:53:34,559 going through superconductor coils to 1459 00:53:40,470 --> 00:53:36,559 make the magnetic fields 1460 00:53:43,190 --> 00:53:40,480 but you break the inertia resistance 1461 00:53:45,430 --> 00:53:43,200 you break you don't break it you you 1462 00:53:48,390 --> 00:53:45,440 enhance the whole system so that 1463 00:53:49,190 --> 00:53:48,400 it's not necessary to have enormous 1464 00:53:51,510 --> 00:53:49,200 amounts of 1465 00:53:53,589 --> 00:53:51,520 you know energy to go beyond a speed 1466 00:53:57,109 --> 00:53:53,599 you're not using rockets 1467 00:53:57,430 --> 00:53:57,119 you're using a bending of space what i 1468 00:54:00,390 --> 00:53:57,440 call 1469 00:54:01,910 --> 00:54:00,400 an inverse hyperbolic field gravity is a 1470 00:54:05,589 --> 00:54:01,920 hyperbolic field 1471 00:54:08,230 --> 00:54:05,599 and an inverse one is one that bows out 1472 00:54:09,589 --> 00:54:08,240 and you want to both blow out the back 1473 00:54:12,630 --> 00:54:09,599 end of your ship so 1474 00:54:15,829 --> 00:54:12,640 space is pushing you through it 1475 00:54:19,829 --> 00:54:15,839 and and so there's no um 1476 00:54:22,069 --> 00:54:19,839 there's no resistance to your emotion 1477 00:54:23,349 --> 00:54:22,079 uh because you have reduced permittivity 1478 00:54:26,390 --> 00:54:23,359 and permeability 1479 00:54:28,549 --> 00:54:26,400 so that's how you break the 1480 00:54:30,710 --> 00:54:28,559 the light speed barrier and you don't 1481 00:54:33,270 --> 00:54:30,720 you're not required 1482 00:54:33,750 --> 00:54:33,280 to have massive amounts of energy to do 1483 00:54:36,549 --> 00:54:33,760 this 1484 00:54:37,349 --> 00:54:36,559 it still takes a lot but a magnetic 1485 00:54:40,150 --> 00:54:37,359 field is much 1486 00:54:41,750 --> 00:54:40,160 stronger than the gravitational field so 1487 00:54:44,390 --> 00:54:41,760 um 1488 00:54:47,430 --> 00:54:44,400 it's it's it's explained in my book in 1489 00:54:48,710 --> 00:54:47,440 great detail but you have to buy a space 1490 00:54:51,190 --> 00:54:48,720 in such a way 1491 00:54:54,150 --> 00:54:51,200 that the lorenz transformations which 1492 00:54:58,230 --> 00:54:54,160 are all a part of special relativity 1493 00:55:00,870 --> 00:54:58,240 no longer apply uh there's a new set of 1494 00:55:03,109 --> 00:55:00,880 equations that has to be added to that 1495 00:55:04,950 --> 00:55:03,119 which deals with the cause of motion and 1496 00:55:07,349 --> 00:55:04,960 what you're doing is you're 1497 00:55:08,950 --> 00:55:07,359 what we're doing with this super 1498 00:55:11,430 --> 00:55:08,960 powerful spacecraft 1499 00:55:13,750 --> 00:55:11,440 with magnetic fields is we're changing 1500 00:55:16,870 --> 00:55:13,760 the rules of space we're changing 1501 00:55:17,510 --> 00:55:16,880 the laws of special relativity with the 1502 00:55:20,710 --> 00:55:17,520 new 1503 00:55:23,510 --> 00:55:20,720 sets of mathematics that will come about 1504 00:55:24,309 --> 00:55:23,520 as a result of discovery that magnetism 1505 00:55:26,630 --> 00:55:24,319 can 1506 00:55:28,549 --> 00:55:26,640 in fact enable us to break the light 1507 00:55:30,230 --> 00:55:28,559 speed barrier 1508 00:55:32,150 --> 00:55:30,240 very good well we're going to go into a 1509 00:55:33,349 --> 00:55:32,160 break and just before we go in for those 1510 00:55:35,349 --> 00:55:33,359 of you on youtube 1511 00:55:36,710 --> 00:55:35,359 this is a little clip of the last time 1512 00:55:39,190 --> 00:55:36,720 that i actually saw 1513 00:55:40,870 --> 00:55:39,200 uh stanton freeman i went up and visited 1514 00:55:42,390 --> 00:55:40,880 him right after he retired 1515 00:55:44,870 --> 00:55:42,400 so i just thought i'd play a nice little 1516 00:55:47,589 --> 00:55:44,880 clip during the three-minute break 1517 00:55:48,549 --> 00:55:47,599 that we have to take over at kgra radio 1518 00:55:51,829 --> 00:55:48,559 and we'll be back 1519 00:55:52,710 --> 00:55:51,839 right after these messages over at kgra 1520 00:55:54,950 --> 00:55:52,720 radio 1521 00:55:55,829 --> 00:55:54,960 thank you so much this show is a tribute 1522 00:55:57,670 --> 00:55:55,839 to you 1523 00:55:59,430 --> 00:55:57,680 um it's our last show together and i 1524 00:56:01,990 --> 00:55:59,440 think it's been about 10 times 1525 00:56:03,510 --> 00:56:02,000 that we've uh it's been a lot i don't 1526 00:56:04,470 --> 00:56:03,520 keep track of these things yeah i know 1527 00:56:06,630 --> 00:56:04,480 you can't 1528 00:56:08,390 --> 00:56:06,640 uh if you had to keep track of i need a 1529 00:56:11,270 --> 00:56:08,400 secretary and i don't have one 1530 00:56:11,910 --> 00:56:11,280 right right right so stan you started 1531 00:56:14,710 --> 00:56:11,920 back in 1532 00:56:17,030 --> 00:56:14,720 what year was it you started i read ed 1533 00:56:19,190 --> 00:56:17,040 rupelt's book the report on unidentified 1534 00:56:21,990 --> 00:56:19,200 flying objects in 1958 1535 00:56:23,829 --> 00:56:22,000 and that was only because i was ordering 1536 00:56:25,670 --> 00:56:23,839 books from marlborough books i needed 1537 00:56:27,510 --> 00:56:25,680 one more book so i wouldn't have to pay 1538 00:56:29,990 --> 00:56:27,520 shipping 1539 00:56:30,630 --> 00:56:30,000 and there was root belt's book and it 1540 00:56:34,789 --> 00:56:30,640 was 1541 00:56:36,230 --> 00:56:34,799 marked down to 1.99 or something and 1542 00:56:37,510 --> 00:56:36,240 so it wasn't going to cost me anything 1543 00:56:38,309 --> 00:56:37,520 because otherwise i would have had to 1544 00:56:40,069 --> 00:56:38,319 pay shipping 1545 00:56:43,190 --> 00:56:40,079 because for the rest of the order and 1546 00:56:45,349 --> 00:56:43,200 that was a lot more than 1.99 1547 00:56:46,230 --> 00:56:45,359 so that got me started i didn't get my 1548 00:56:48,069 --> 00:56:46,240 first lecture 1549 00:56:49,910 --> 00:56:48,079 i'm a little slow on the draw as a 1550 00:56:51,589 --> 00:56:49,920 nuclear physicist you have to be careful 1551 00:56:53,510 --> 00:56:51,599 what you say sure we'll expect you to be 1552 00:56:55,270 --> 00:56:53,520 factual you know 1553 00:56:57,750 --> 00:56:55,280 and so i didn't get my first election 1554 00:57:01,270 --> 00:56:57,760 until 1967 1555 00:57:07,109 --> 00:57:01,280 and i didn't go full time really 1556 00:57:09,750 --> 00:57:07,119 until uh about 1978 or so 1557 00:57:11,670 --> 00:57:09,760 no not not that late but there were a 1558 00:57:11,990 --> 00:57:11,680 lot of years of speaking before i went 1559 00:57:15,190 --> 00:57:12,000 full 1560 00:57:19,430 --> 00:57:15,200 time the the problem was that i 1561 00:57:20,230 --> 00:57:19,440 worked in a how will i put it a volatile 1562 00:57:23,349 --> 00:57:20,240 industry 1563 00:57:26,549 --> 00:57:23,359 advanced nuclear propulsion sort of 1564 00:57:27,910 --> 00:57:26,559 things i worked on nuclear airplanes for 1565 00:57:30,630 --> 00:57:27,920 general electric 1566 00:57:32,390 --> 00:57:30,640 it wasn't a small program in 1958 we 1567 00:57:36,230 --> 00:57:32,400 spent 100 million 1568 00:57:38,710 --> 00:57:36,240 dollars we employed 3 400 people of whom 1569 00:57:40,309 --> 00:57:38,720 1100 were engineers and scientists 1570 00:57:42,870 --> 00:57:40,319 this wasn't six professors sitting 1571 00:57:46,150 --> 00:57:42,880 around the table you know 1572 00:57:46,870 --> 00:57:46,160 i worked for the most exciting thing in 1573 00:57:48,390 --> 00:57:46,880 my 1574 00:57:50,549 --> 00:57:48,400 professional career if you will was 1575 00:57:51,750 --> 00:57:50,559 working for westinghouse astro nuclear 1576 00:57:55,030 --> 00:57:51,760 lab 1577 00:57:57,270 --> 00:57:55,040 when we tested the nrx a6 nuclear rocket 1578 00:57:59,270 --> 00:57:57,280 reactor propulsion system 1579 00:58:00,950 --> 00:57:59,280 out at the nuclear test site not far 1580 00:58:03,990 --> 00:58:00,960 from area 51 1581 00:58:07,430 --> 00:58:04,000 you know the thing was this big power 1582 00:58:09,109 --> 00:58:07,440 level was 1100 1583 00:58:10,470 --> 00:58:09,119 i hate megawatts pay that electric bill 1584 00:58:13,829 --> 00:58:10,480 uh yeah 1585 00:58:16,230 --> 00:58:13,839 uh that was exciting 1586 00:58:18,309 --> 00:58:16,240 we listened the test was done out in 1587 00:58:21,510 --> 00:58:18,319 nevada but we were back in 1588 00:58:23,750 --> 00:58:21,520 pennsylvania and we were listening 1589 00:58:24,789 --> 00:58:23,760 five minutes elapsed nominal temperature 1590 00:58:26,870 --> 00:58:24,799 and pressure and 1591 00:58:28,870 --> 00:58:26,880 ten minutes we had no idea how long the 1592 00:58:31,430 --> 00:58:28,880 thing would last nobody'd ever done this 1593 00:58:34,390 --> 00:58:31,440 before 1594 00:58:34,630 --> 00:58:34,400 the exhaust temperature liquid hydrogen 1595 00:58:38,470 --> 00:58:34,640 in 1596 00:58:41,589 --> 00:58:38,480 cold very cold and out at 4 1597 00:58:45,270 --> 00:58:41,599 000 degrees that's 1598 00:58:45,750 --> 00:58:45,280 amazing uh you know i guess jet engines 1599 00:58:50,789 --> 00:58:45,760 usually 1600 00:59:05,190 --> 00:58:50,799 1800 or something like that 1601 00:59:09,510 --> 00:59:05,200 stand by martin ten seconds 1602 00:59:11,430 --> 00:59:09,520 in three two one go 1603 00:59:13,750 --> 00:59:11,440 all right i'm back uh with my guests 1604 00:59:16,710 --> 00:59:13,760 tonight um and we're talking 1605 00:59:18,309 --> 00:59:16,720 about um all kinds of things and up in 1606 00:59:19,589 --> 00:59:18,319 the chat room there was a question i 1607 00:59:23,349 --> 00:59:19,599 want to post back 1608 00:59:25,589 --> 00:59:23,359 there again for our guest and 1609 00:59:27,270 --> 00:59:25,599 trying to find it uh the chats move 1610 00:59:29,990 --> 00:59:27,280 along pretty fast here 1611 00:59:31,430 --> 00:59:30,000 um and i don't know if you read it or 1612 00:59:33,670 --> 00:59:31,440 let me see if i can find it though i had 1613 00:59:37,109 --> 00:59:33,680 it up once i should be able to find it 1614 00:59:40,470 --> 00:59:37,119 um but anyway there he 1615 00:59:41,190 --> 00:59:40,480 i believe this is it okay what about the 1616 00:59:44,710 --> 00:59:41,200 expansion 1617 00:59:46,549 --> 00:59:44,720 of space being gravity opposite 1618 00:59:48,150 --> 00:59:46,559 is that something that does that make 1619 00:59:51,030 --> 00:59:48,160 any sense to you that statement 1620 00:59:51,829 --> 00:59:51,040 that's exactly right that's what i call 1621 00:59:54,069 --> 00:59:51,839 the inverse 1622 00:59:55,109 --> 00:59:54,079 hyperbolic field it's the expansion of 1623 00:59:58,390 --> 00:59:55,119 space 1624 01:00:01,190 --> 00:59:58,400 that clearly in 1625 01:00:02,390 --> 01:00:01,200 in my book i point out with many 1626 01:00:04,230 --> 01:00:02,400 documents 1627 01:00:05,990 --> 01:00:04,240 many things statements coming from 1628 01:00:09,109 --> 01:00:06,000 einstein that 1629 01:00:12,390 --> 01:00:09,119 he concluded that 1630 01:00:15,589 --> 01:00:12,400 that basically space is contracted 1631 01:00:18,710 --> 01:00:15,599 and there's a passage in amir d 1632 01:00:21,510 --> 01:00:18,720 xl's book titled god's equation 1633 01:00:22,789 --> 01:00:21,520 where he comes up with the mental idea 1634 01:00:25,829 --> 01:00:22,799 that describes it 1635 01:00:26,549 --> 01:00:25,839 you know he's getting the model to how 1636 01:00:29,510 --> 01:00:26,559 to create 1637 01:00:29,910 --> 01:00:29,520 a gravitational field and he says in his 1638 01:00:31,829 --> 01:00:29,920 book 1639 01:00:33,589 --> 01:00:31,839 einstein followed the line of reasoning 1640 01:00:34,390 --> 01:00:33,599 that began with his happiest thought of 1641 01:00:36,230 --> 01:00:34,400 his life 1642 01:00:37,910 --> 01:00:36,240 still at the swiss patent office he 1643 01:00:40,549 --> 01:00:37,920 conducted one of his famous 1644 01:00:42,390 --> 01:00:40,559 thought experiments einstein imagined a 1645 01:00:44,470 --> 01:00:42,400 circle spinning in space 1646 01:00:46,710 --> 01:00:44,480 the center of the circle did not move 1647 01:00:48,549 --> 01:00:46,720 but its circumference was moving quickly 1648 01:00:50,390 --> 01:00:48,559 in a circular direction 1649 01:00:51,910 --> 01:00:50,400 einstein compared what happens in 1650 01:00:53,589 --> 01:00:51,920 several reference frames 1651 01:00:55,270 --> 01:00:53,599 a standard tool he had used in 1652 01:00:57,990 --> 01:00:55,280 developing the special theory 1653 01:00:59,589 --> 01:00:58,000 of relativity he concluded using his 1654 01:01:02,549 --> 01:00:59,599 special relativity 1655 01:01:03,990 --> 01:01:02,559 that the boundary of the disk contracted 1656 01:01:06,789 --> 01:01:04,000 as it spun 1657 01:01:08,069 --> 01:01:06,799 so what i'm saying here is that einstein 1658 01:01:11,190 --> 01:01:08,079 worked it out in his mind 1659 01:01:12,470 --> 01:01:11,200 a way to mechanically cause space to 1660 01:01:14,950 --> 01:01:12,480 contract 1661 01:01:16,789 --> 01:01:14,960 and if you instead of using a disc if 1662 01:01:19,109 --> 01:01:16,799 you use particles 1663 01:01:20,789 --> 01:01:19,119 that do the same type type of motion 1664 01:01:22,950 --> 01:01:20,799 which is accelerated 1665 01:01:25,190 --> 01:01:22,960 you can make space contract so that's 1666 01:01:27,430 --> 01:01:25,200 what his happiest thought was 1667 01:01:29,750 --> 01:01:27,440 there was a force acting on the circle 1668 01:01:31,910 --> 01:01:29,760 at the boundary the centrifugal force 1669 01:01:33,510 --> 01:01:31,920 and its action was analogous to that of 1670 01:01:36,630 --> 01:01:33,520 the gravitational force 1671 01:01:38,789 --> 01:01:36,640 but that same contraction that affected 1672 01:01:39,910 --> 01:01:38,799 the outer circle left the diameter 1673 01:01:41,990 --> 01:01:39,920 unchanged 1674 01:01:43,349 --> 01:01:42,000 thus einstein concluded in a way that 1675 01:01:45,349 --> 01:01:43,359 surprised even him 1676 01:01:46,710 --> 01:01:45,359 the ratio of the circle to the diameter 1677 01:01:49,270 --> 01:01:46,720 was no longer 1678 01:01:50,789 --> 01:01:49,280 pi he deduced that in the presence of a 1679 01:01:54,069 --> 01:01:50,799 gravitational force 1680 01:01:57,430 --> 01:01:54,079 or feel the geometry of space was not 1681 01:01:58,390 --> 01:01:57,440 euclidean it was bent it was contracting 1682 01:02:00,470 --> 01:01:58,400 inwards 1683 01:02:02,390 --> 01:02:00,480 and then he built the general relativity 1684 01:02:06,069 --> 01:02:02,400 theory equations 1685 01:02:08,390 --> 01:02:06,079 from that model which he knew had 1686 01:02:09,270 --> 01:02:08,400 something to do with acceleration but he 1687 01:02:11,990 --> 01:02:09,280 never really 1688 01:02:13,270 --> 01:02:12,000 worked out that part or inertia which i 1689 01:02:16,630 --> 01:02:13,280 have done in my book 1690 01:02:19,109 --> 01:02:16,640 i linked inertia gravity and mass 1691 01:02:20,150 --> 01:02:19,119 as being all being caused by the same 1692 01:02:23,750 --> 01:02:20,160 mechanical 1693 01:02:25,510 --> 01:02:23,760 motion so anti-gravity 1694 01:02:27,190 --> 01:02:25,520 you have to do the opposite you have to 1695 01:02:28,230 --> 01:02:27,200 use somehow you got to use some kind of 1696 01:02:30,270 --> 01:02:28,240 particles 1697 01:02:31,589 --> 01:02:30,280 but you got to get them to move in a 1698 01:02:34,870 --> 01:02:31,599 non-accelerated way 1699 01:02:37,270 --> 01:02:34,880 through wire electrons which create 1700 01:02:37,990 --> 01:02:37,280 just a magnetic field because magnetic 1701 01:02:41,750 --> 01:02:38,000 fields 1702 01:02:42,950 --> 01:02:41,760 only happen when charges move electrons 1703 01:02:45,349 --> 01:02:42,960 are charges 1704 01:02:46,309 --> 01:02:45,359 so if we get those to move in a wire 1705 01:02:49,349 --> 01:02:46,319 it's more or less 1706 01:02:51,829 --> 01:02:49,359 a linear path uh muscle less 1707 01:02:53,430 --> 01:02:51,839 much less accelerate it really doesn't 1708 01:02:55,910 --> 01:02:53,440 generate much mass but it 1709 01:02:58,710 --> 01:02:55,920 generates a lot of magnetism and 1710 01:03:01,109 --> 01:02:58,720 magnetism is a rotation of space 1711 01:03:02,069 --> 01:03:01,119 and when you twist something if you 1712 01:03:04,150 --> 01:03:02,079 imagine you know 1713 01:03:06,069 --> 01:03:04,160 you're twisting silly pulley and you 1714 01:03:08,630 --> 01:03:06,079 keep twisting it gets thinner 1715 01:03:09,190 --> 01:03:08,640 thinner that's what happens with space 1716 01:03:12,309 --> 01:03:09,200 so 1717 01:03:14,789 --> 01:03:12,319 what you want to do to make space 1718 01:03:16,390 --> 01:03:14,799 bulge out you have to make it thinner 1719 01:03:17,990 --> 01:03:16,400 you have to stretch it and that's what 1720 01:03:19,910 --> 01:03:18,000 the magnetic field does 1721 01:03:23,029 --> 01:03:19,920 and when you do that you change all the 1722 01:03:26,069 --> 01:03:23,039 rules about going through that space 1723 01:03:29,510 --> 01:03:26,079 and and so exactly true 1724 01:03:32,230 --> 01:03:29,520 a space anti-gravity is a um 1725 01:03:34,309 --> 01:03:32,240 an expansion of space and i you know i 1726 01:03:35,270 --> 01:03:34,319 say that in the book in several places 1727 01:03:38,309 --> 01:03:35,280 especially 1728 01:03:39,029 --> 01:03:38,319 toward the end of the book here's a a 1729 01:03:42,789 --> 01:03:39,039 comment from 1730 01:03:45,750 --> 01:03:42,799 joe my understanding is that scientists 1731 01:03:47,349 --> 01:03:45,760 do not understand gravity at all we are 1732 01:03:50,230 --> 01:03:47,359 still speculating as how 1733 01:03:50,870 --> 01:03:50,240 and what it is i i think that's correct 1734 01:03:53,430 --> 01:03:50,880 isn't it 1735 01:03:54,549 --> 01:03:53,440 yes that's that's true right now that's 1736 01:03:57,829 --> 01:03:54,559 where we're at 1737 01:04:01,190 --> 01:03:57,839 that's what i'm trying to push us beyond 1738 01:04:04,069 --> 01:04:01,200 truly evolved species understands 1739 01:04:05,670 --> 01:04:04,079 the unified field theory they understand 1740 01:04:06,390 --> 01:04:05,680 the theory of everything they've solved 1741 01:04:08,950 --> 01:04:06,400 that problem 1742 01:04:11,750 --> 01:04:08,960 so you have to understand gravity and 1743 01:04:13,829 --> 01:04:11,760 gravity has eluded scientists 1744 01:04:15,510 --> 01:04:13,839 all of them up till this point because 1745 01:04:19,589 --> 01:04:15,520 they keep trying to uh 1746 01:04:22,710 --> 01:04:19,599 quantize it trying to make it somehow 1747 01:04:24,549 --> 01:04:22,720 a particle to particle interaction 1748 01:04:26,069 --> 01:04:24,559 that's not the right model that's why 1749 01:04:29,270 --> 01:04:26,079 they've failed over 26 1750 01:04:30,870 --> 01:04:29,280 times to try to get gravity to go into 1751 01:04:32,950 --> 01:04:30,880 the standard model 1752 01:04:35,349 --> 01:04:32,960 it's not about a particle the particle 1753 01:04:36,230 --> 01:04:35,359 interaction it's about a particle to 1754 01:04:40,069 --> 01:04:36,240 space 1755 01:04:42,789 --> 01:04:40,079 interaction so since mainstream 1756 01:04:44,309 --> 01:04:42,799 science still thinks that space is made 1757 01:04:47,190 --> 01:04:44,319 of nothing avoid 1758 01:04:49,190 --> 01:04:47,200 uh completely empty they they don't 1759 01:04:51,270 --> 01:04:49,200 entertain the idea 1760 01:04:52,230 --> 01:04:51,280 of making it a particle-to-space 1761 01:04:53,990 --> 01:04:52,240 interaction 1762 01:04:55,430 --> 01:04:54,000 and that the space itself is a 1763 01:04:58,870 --> 01:04:55,440 continuous object 1764 01:05:01,750 --> 01:04:58,880 not a quantized object it's not a 1765 01:05:02,630 --> 01:05:01,760 a field of particles it's a continuous 1766 01:05:05,190 --> 01:05:02,640 material 1767 01:05:07,349 --> 01:05:05,200 and and the forces of magnetism and 1768 01:05:10,230 --> 01:05:07,359 electrostatic fields and gravity 1769 01:05:10,950 --> 01:05:10,240 are all just different types of a 1770 01:05:15,190 --> 01:05:10,960 bending 1771 01:05:17,589 --> 01:05:15,200 of that continuous material that medium 1772 01:05:20,309 --> 01:05:17,599 which is was called the ether back in 1773 01:05:23,270 --> 01:05:20,319 the early 1900s 1774 01:05:24,549 --> 01:05:23,280 when you say continuous is that 1775 01:05:27,990 --> 01:05:24,559 inferring that 1776 01:05:31,190 --> 01:05:28,000 space is infinite in your mind 1777 01:05:33,430 --> 01:05:31,200 um if you get into the bigger picture 1778 01:05:35,589 --> 01:05:33,440 and this goes into talking with people 1779 01:05:38,390 --> 01:05:35,599 who have had near-death experiences 1780 01:05:39,910 --> 01:05:38,400 and so forth and when you get you're 1781 01:05:42,150 --> 01:05:39,920 starting to get 1782 01:05:43,190 --> 01:05:42,160 when you talk about infinity you're 1783 01:05:46,870 --> 01:05:43,200 going in the 1784 01:05:50,150 --> 01:05:46,880 god direction and i think 1785 01:05:53,190 --> 01:05:50,160 yeah that space 1786 01:05:55,589 --> 01:05:53,200 goes beyond our galaxy of course beyond 1787 01:05:57,510 --> 01:05:55,599 all the galaxies in our universe there's 1788 01:05:58,950 --> 01:05:57,520 other universes that are probably 1789 01:06:01,829 --> 01:05:58,960 located 1790 01:06:03,430 --> 01:06:01,839 at immense distances from us that we you 1791 01:06:04,230 --> 01:06:03,440 know we can't ever really see with 1792 01:06:07,829 --> 01:06:04,240 another 1793 01:06:10,630 --> 01:06:07,839 telescope but they're probably 1794 01:06:12,230 --> 01:06:10,640 infinite numbers of other universes so 1795 01:06:14,789 --> 01:06:12,240 space is going to go on 1796 01:06:15,750 --> 01:06:14,799 for infinity because can anybody really 1797 01:06:19,109 --> 01:06:15,760 figure out 1798 01:06:20,950 --> 01:06:19,119 why it shouldn't be i i can't i mean 1799 01:06:24,470 --> 01:06:20,960 i've thought about it 1800 01:06:27,109 --> 01:06:24,480 i can't when you go to 1801 01:06:28,630 --> 01:06:27,119 questions of eternity and eternal and 1802 01:06:30,950 --> 01:06:28,640 infinity 1803 01:06:32,150 --> 01:06:30,960 you connect to the edge of that thing 1804 01:06:35,430 --> 01:06:32,160 because it's infinite 1805 01:06:37,750 --> 01:06:35,440 so i would have to say that space is 1806 01:06:39,109 --> 01:06:37,760 going to turn out to be an infinite 1807 01:06:42,390 --> 01:06:39,119 object 1808 01:06:44,710 --> 01:06:42,400 yeah um i've i've talked to that with a 1809 01:06:45,670 --> 01:06:44,720 um an astrophysicist before you know 1810 01:06:48,150 --> 01:06:45,680 like um 1811 01:06:48,950 --> 01:06:48,160 if there is an end to space what is it a 1812 01:06:50,710 --> 01:06:48,960 wall or 1813 01:06:52,309 --> 01:06:50,720 type of thing and he said well it's it's 1814 01:06:54,069 --> 01:06:52,319 kind of like a balloon 1815 01:06:55,670 --> 01:06:54,079 like the outside of a balloon or 1816 01:06:58,789 --> 01:06:55,680 something i can't remember 1817 01:07:00,150 --> 01:06:58,799 how he exactly uh mentioned it but was 1818 01:07:02,630 --> 01:07:00,160 trying to describe it 1819 01:07:04,710 --> 01:07:02,640 not not saying that there is an end that 1820 01:07:05,349 --> 01:07:04,720 it continues but in a bend or something 1821 01:07:07,829 --> 01:07:05,359 like that 1822 01:07:09,029 --> 01:07:07,839 yeah that's just that's the finite but 1823 01:07:11,910 --> 01:07:09,039 unbounded 1824 01:07:14,069 --> 01:07:11,920 model which i think this is something 1825 01:07:17,270 --> 01:07:14,079 that einstein liked and it's something i 1826 01:07:19,829 --> 01:07:17,280 i use a lot too only 1827 01:07:21,589 --> 01:07:19,839 its purpose for me is to describe why 1828 01:07:26,150 --> 01:07:21,599 particles don't 1829 01:07:28,230 --> 01:07:26,160 um come apart they're persistent frozen 1830 01:07:31,430 --> 01:07:28,240 are you there yeah i'm here can you hear 1831 01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:37,109 hello i think you're you're frozen 1832 01:07:40,870 --> 01:07:40,150 okay everyone was frozen wow that was 1833 01:07:43,349 --> 01:07:40,880 interesting 1834 01:07:44,309 --> 01:07:43,359 yeah wow well so yeah i'm not really 1835 01:07:46,309 --> 01:07:44,319 sure i think the 1836 01:07:48,230 --> 01:07:46,319 internet at uh the property i'm at went 1837 01:07:50,630 --> 01:07:48,240 down for just a second i'm sorry 1838 01:07:51,349 --> 01:07:50,640 so uh we'll we'll move on here and i 1839 01:07:52,870 --> 01:07:51,359 didn't 1840 01:07:54,630 --> 01:07:52,880 catch that but i do have another 1841 01:07:55,589 --> 01:07:54,640 interesting uh i didn't catch all that i 1842 01:07:58,870 --> 01:07:55,599 don't think 1843 01:08:01,190 --> 01:07:58,880 but what uh contracts bends 1844 01:08:03,190 --> 01:08:01,200 what will bend space-time i think i 1845 01:08:06,630 --> 01:08:03,200 think that's a question 1846 01:08:10,069 --> 01:08:06,640 yeah i that that excerpt i just read 1847 01:08:12,789 --> 01:08:10,079 is i i can say it this way using the 1848 01:08:14,150 --> 01:08:12,799 super relativity gravity explanation so 1849 01:08:17,669 --> 01:08:14,160 the contraction of space 1850 01:08:19,910 --> 01:08:17,679 bending the space time is gravity so 1851 01:08:23,189 --> 01:08:19,920 gravity is caused by the accelerated 1852 01:08:26,229 --> 01:08:23,199 motion of fundamental unbalanced charges 1853 01:08:26,950 --> 01:08:26,239 when charges move in this way they cause 1854 01:08:30,229 --> 01:08:26,960 the space 1855 01:08:32,550 --> 01:08:30,239 in and around the particle to contract 1856 01:08:33,349 --> 01:08:32,560 gravity is a contraction of the spatial 1857 01:08:36,229 --> 01:08:33,359 medium 1858 01:08:38,870 --> 01:08:36,239 so that's how you bend space time to 1859 01:08:40,309 --> 01:08:38,880 create gravity the other one which i've 1860 01:08:42,630 --> 01:08:40,319 already explained 1861 01:08:43,510 --> 01:08:42,640 the bending of it outwards or the 1862 01:08:46,630 --> 01:08:43,520 expansion 1863 01:08:49,910 --> 01:08:46,640 is caused by moving charges 1864 01:08:52,309 --> 01:08:49,920 uh in in wires that create magnetism but 1865 01:08:54,470 --> 01:08:52,319 anytime a charge moves you get magnetism 1866 01:08:56,229 --> 01:08:54,480 magnetism is a rotation of space when 1867 01:08:59,749 --> 01:08:56,239 you cause space to rotate 1868 01:09:00,550 --> 01:08:59,759 it stretches and so space kind of bulges 1869 01:09:04,390 --> 01:09:00,560 out 1870 01:09:06,630 --> 01:09:04,400 as a you know byproduct of that magnetic 1871 01:09:09,669 --> 01:09:06,640 field it's a it's another 1872 01:09:11,349 --> 01:09:09,679 effect it creates a change in the 1873 01:09:14,470 --> 01:09:11,359 density of space and that 1874 01:09:16,070 --> 01:09:14,480 creates the bulging out or the bending 1875 01:09:17,669 --> 01:09:16,080 outward of space-time 1876 01:09:19,669 --> 01:09:17,679 so those are the two ways there's only 1877 01:09:22,309 --> 01:09:19,679 so many ways you can bend space 1878 01:09:23,110 --> 01:09:22,319 you can bend it clockwise you can twist 1879 01:09:25,590 --> 01:09:23,120 it clockwise 1880 01:09:27,749 --> 01:09:25,600 counterclockwise you can stretch it and 1881 01:09:29,910 --> 01:09:27,759 you can compress it 1882 01:09:31,110 --> 01:09:29,920 that's all you can do with silly putty 1883 01:09:33,910 --> 01:09:31,120 that's all you can do with 1884 01:09:36,550 --> 01:09:33,920 you know any continuous medium that you 1885 01:09:38,470 --> 01:09:36,560 can imagine you can stretch it twist it 1886 01:09:40,309 --> 01:09:38,480 one way or the other and and sure enough 1887 01:09:42,149 --> 01:09:40,319 that's what we see 1888 01:09:43,749 --> 01:09:42,159 when scientists measure particles they 1889 01:09:47,030 --> 01:09:43,759 see them rotating 1890 01:09:50,070 --> 01:09:47,040 clockwise or counterclockwise 1891 01:09:50,870 --> 01:09:50,080 and um and you can stretch space and you 1892 01:09:53,990 --> 01:09:50,880 can bend it 1893 01:09:57,830 --> 01:09:54,000 and that's that's the basic ways you can 1894 01:10:02,630 --> 01:09:59,669 interesting another question up here is 1895 01:10:04,470 --> 01:10:02,640 uh as far as the travel i believe that's 1896 01:10:06,709 --> 01:10:04,480 what janiece is trying to ask here 1897 01:10:10,709 --> 01:10:06,719 would there be any adverse effects on 1898 01:10:10,719 --> 01:10:13,830 you know the design 1899 01:10:17,990 --> 01:10:16,310 it really is like an intelligent design 1900 01:10:20,310 --> 01:10:18,000 because it 1901 01:10:22,550 --> 01:10:20,320 bending space by using the slipway 1902 01:10:23,830 --> 01:10:22,560 spatial bias drive which i describe in 1903 01:10:25,990 --> 01:10:23,840 my book 1904 01:10:27,270 --> 01:10:26,000 it makes it possible to break the light 1905 01:10:29,270 --> 01:10:27,280 speed barrier 1906 01:10:31,189 --> 01:10:29,280 and and if you'll notice that you know 1907 01:10:33,590 --> 01:10:31,199 when these ufos 1908 01:10:35,189 --> 01:10:33,600 make or going a thousand miles an hour 1909 01:10:36,790 --> 01:10:35,199 in one direction and they make a right 1910 01:10:39,310 --> 01:10:36,800 turn 1911 01:10:40,550 --> 01:10:39,320 instantly that would that would be a 1912 01:10:43,110 --> 01:10:40,560 bone-crushing 1913 01:10:44,390 --> 01:10:43,120 inertial kill for anybody inside the 1914 01:10:47,030 --> 01:10:44,400 ship 1915 01:10:49,110 --> 01:10:47,040 the slip wave because it bends space 1916 01:10:51,990 --> 01:10:49,120 outward 1917 01:10:54,310 --> 01:10:52,000 eliminates the inertial effect because 1918 01:10:55,510 --> 01:10:54,320 you're basically weightless inside a ufo 1919 01:10:58,950 --> 01:10:55,520 so you're basically 1920 01:11:01,510 --> 01:10:58,960 weightless inside um 1921 01:11:02,229 --> 01:11:01,520 this interstellar spacecraft that we 1922 01:11:05,510 --> 01:11:02,239 make 1923 01:11:07,510 --> 01:11:05,520 so the only adverse effect that concerns 1924 01:11:09,669 --> 01:11:07,520 me it's not anything to do with inertia 1925 01:11:13,030 --> 01:11:09,679 or gravity or anything like that 1926 01:11:16,790 --> 01:11:13,040 it it i worry about 1927 01:11:19,270 --> 01:11:16,800 time going just a little bit faster 1928 01:11:21,189 --> 01:11:19,280 uh and that have to get into the lorenz 1929 01:11:21,910 --> 01:11:21,199 transformation described by that what 1930 01:11:24,310 --> 01:11:21,920 happened 1931 01:11:25,030 --> 01:11:24,320 but it's like you're not moving at all 1932 01:11:27,750 --> 01:11:25,040 even 1933 01:11:30,630 --> 01:11:27,760 when you're inside of this bubble going 1934 01:11:33,189 --> 01:11:30,640 50 000 times the speed of light 1935 01:11:34,870 --> 01:11:33,199 you relative to space are almost not 1936 01:11:37,270 --> 01:11:34,880 moving at all so 1937 01:11:39,110 --> 01:11:37,280 time will go a little bit faster or i 1938 01:11:39,590 --> 01:11:39,120 should say the clocks that measure time 1939 01:11:41,590 --> 01:11:39,600 will 1940 01:11:44,550 --> 01:11:41,600 which means the particles in your body 1941 01:11:46,310 --> 01:11:44,560 will be vibrating at higher frequencies 1942 01:11:48,390 --> 01:11:46,320 that is a little concerning to me you 1943 01:11:48,790 --> 01:11:48,400 might age a little bit faster but it 1944 01:11:52,149 --> 01:11:48,800 might 1945 01:11:54,709 --> 01:11:52,159 it's probably going to be minuscule 1946 01:11:56,470 --> 01:11:54,719 far better than the other way if we were 1947 01:11:59,189 --> 01:11:56,480 to not use this 1948 01:12:01,030 --> 01:11:59,199 the slipway spatial bias drive and try 1949 01:12:04,229 --> 01:12:01,040 to go that fast 1950 01:12:05,830 --> 01:12:04,239 we'd be terminated um you couldn't do it 1951 01:12:08,550 --> 01:12:05,840 your spaceship would flatten 1952 01:12:10,390 --> 01:12:08,560 into a pancake your mass would increase 1953 01:12:13,430 --> 01:12:10,400 to infinity you would not survive 1954 01:12:14,709 --> 01:12:13,440 that uh you have to travel this way 1955 01:12:18,470 --> 01:12:14,719 using the slipway 1956 01:12:21,830 --> 01:12:18,480 spatial bias drive there's a 1957 01:12:24,550 --> 01:12:21,840 there was a guest i had on way way back 1958 01:12:25,270 --> 01:12:24,560 i'm talking about like 2013 or something 1959 01:12:29,110 --> 01:12:25,280 like that 1960 01:12:33,270 --> 01:12:29,120 robert farrell that was his name and he 1961 01:12:36,470 --> 01:12:33,280 he as he kind of reflected 1962 01:12:37,350 --> 01:12:36,480 a lot of what you're talking about and 1963 01:12:41,350 --> 01:12:37,360 one of them 1964 01:12:43,270 --> 01:12:41,360 one of his thoughts was somehow that 1965 01:12:44,550 --> 01:12:43,280 would be almost like falling they would 1966 01:12:47,510 --> 01:12:44,560 almost be like 1967 01:12:51,910 --> 01:12:47,520 almost like you'd be falling so that's 1968 01:12:55,910 --> 01:12:51,920 why there was never any um 1969 01:12:57,669 --> 01:12:55,920 g-force problems like it was um 1970 01:12:59,510 --> 01:12:57,679 i forget exactly what he said but if 1971 01:13:01,830 --> 01:12:59,520 anyone wants to look it up 1972 01:13:03,510 --> 01:13:01,840 i know you'll find his book pretty 1973 01:13:05,750 --> 01:13:03,520 fascinating but similar to 1974 01:13:07,270 --> 01:13:05,760 to what you're you're discussing i 1975 01:13:08,630 --> 01:13:07,280 wondered if you had ever heard of any of 1976 01:13:11,110 --> 01:13:08,640 its theories 1977 01:13:12,950 --> 01:13:11,120 no no but it sounds like he was 1978 01:13:16,070 --> 01:13:12,960 concerned with inertial leakage 1979 01:13:17,430 --> 01:13:16,080 which is a problem i've heard that we 1980 01:13:19,750 --> 01:13:17,440 had when we were building 1981 01:13:21,830 --> 01:13:19,760 our first spaceships which of course we 1982 01:13:25,910 --> 01:13:21,840 don't admit to doing but 1983 01:13:30,470 --> 01:13:25,920 we've done i'm certain of it 1984 01:13:33,830 --> 01:13:30,480 if you are not encased entirely in that 1985 01:13:36,310 --> 01:13:33,840 slipway spatial bias drive field 1986 01:13:37,669 --> 01:13:36,320 you are not going to be safe if there's 1987 01:13:40,950 --> 01:13:37,679 any leakage at all 1988 01:13:41,990 --> 01:13:40,960 so that there is any coverage area 1989 01:13:45,669 --> 01:13:42,000 that's open where 1990 01:13:48,870 --> 01:13:45,679 it's just normal space if you 1991 01:13:51,750 --> 01:13:48,880 if you make changes in speed any objects 1992 01:13:52,229 --> 01:13:51,760 in that area of the spaceship will be 1993 01:13:56,149 --> 01:13:52,239 you know 1994 01:13:56,390 --> 01:13:56,159 harmed deeply if your your chest is in 1995 01:14:00,709 --> 01:13:56,400 an 1996 01:14:03,910 --> 01:14:00,719 coming through the spaceship 1997 01:14:06,950 --> 01:14:03,920 it'll it'll kill you if you make rapid 1998 01:14:10,149 --> 01:14:06,960 accelerations or changes uh 1999 01:14:11,030 --> 01:14:10,159 so that's important that you be inside 2000 01:14:12,950 --> 01:14:11,040 this bubble 2001 01:14:15,430 --> 01:14:12,960 all of it all of your ship especially 2002 01:14:17,750 --> 01:14:15,440 when you break a light speed barrier 2003 01:14:19,030 --> 01:14:17,760 if you don't that's very dangerous 2004 01:14:20,630 --> 01:14:19,040 that's lethal 2005 01:14:23,030 --> 01:14:20,640 so that's right all right that needs to 2006 01:14:25,110 --> 01:14:23,040 be designed into the systems 2007 01:14:26,070 --> 01:14:25,120 all right just a a couple of thoughts 2008 01:14:29,030 --> 01:14:26,080 also like 2009 01:14:29,669 --> 01:14:29,040 if you were traveling at these speeds 2010 01:14:33,990 --> 01:14:29,679 what about 2011 01:14:37,430 --> 01:14:34,000 things like um comets asteroids 2012 01:14:39,350 --> 01:14:37,440 uh space particles things like that how 2013 01:14:42,390 --> 01:14:39,360 would you possibly 2014 01:14:44,709 --> 01:14:42,400 uh avoid these things 2015 01:14:46,470 --> 01:14:44,719 that that is a good question now 2016 01:14:48,870 --> 01:14:46,480 fortunately between 2017 01:14:50,950 --> 01:14:48,880 the stars there's it's pretty much a 2018 01:14:52,550 --> 01:14:50,960 void uh there's not much out there that 2019 01:14:54,790 --> 01:14:52,560 we know of 2020 01:14:56,390 --> 01:14:54,800 but you know i i've worked on that 2021 01:14:57,350 --> 01:14:56,400 problem i have thought about that 2022 01:14:59,430 --> 01:14:57,360 problem because it's 2023 01:15:01,110 --> 01:14:59,440 it's a tricky beast because you can't 2024 01:15:03,189 --> 01:15:01,120 use radar 2025 01:15:04,550 --> 01:15:03,199 you're going to outrun the radar by 2026 01:15:07,590 --> 01:15:04,560 quite a bit 2027 01:15:10,709 --> 01:15:07,600 so like coming into our 2028 01:15:12,709 --> 01:15:10,719 solar system you want to come in 2029 01:15:15,030 --> 01:15:12,719 not through the plane of the ecliptic 2030 01:15:17,110 --> 01:15:15,040 because there's a lot of asteroids 2031 01:15:19,270 --> 01:15:17,120 lots of things going on there and you 2032 01:15:21,189 --> 01:15:19,280 could very easily hit something 2033 01:15:22,709 --> 01:15:21,199 and if you're going at half the speed of 2034 01:15:24,790 --> 01:15:22,719 light it's 2035 01:15:26,790 --> 01:15:24,800 still going to be a problem but what you 2036 01:15:30,070 --> 01:15:26,800 probably would have to do what i 2037 01:15:32,470 --> 01:15:30,080 imagine is done by the us and whoever 2038 01:15:34,070 --> 01:15:32,480 other aliens and so forth is when you 2039 01:15:36,709 --> 01:15:34,080 get to a solar system 2040 01:15:37,110 --> 01:15:36,719 you have to slow down so that you can 2041 01:15:40,470 --> 01:15:37,120 use 2042 01:15:42,630 --> 01:15:40,480 radar to scan ahead and plot any objects 2043 01:15:46,310 --> 01:15:42,640 that are going to be in your way 2044 01:15:48,310 --> 01:15:46,320 so once you get it into the solar system 2045 01:15:49,510 --> 01:15:48,320 you you slow down and let's say half the 2046 01:15:51,669 --> 01:15:49,520 speed of light 2047 01:15:53,510 --> 01:15:51,679 and you could still get around quite 2048 01:15:55,110 --> 01:15:53,520 nicely through the solar system at you 2049 01:15:57,030 --> 01:15:55,120 know half the light 2050 01:15:59,910 --> 01:15:57,040 uh yeah all right might take an hour or 2051 01:16:02,630 --> 01:15:59,920 two to go to the next planet but 2052 01:16:04,870 --> 01:16:02,640 still that's that's tolerable you know 2053 01:16:07,350 --> 01:16:04,880 not six months not a year 2054 01:16:09,030 --> 01:16:07,360 uh just a few minutes to get you know 2055 01:16:11,350 --> 01:16:09,040 from one planet to the other 2056 01:16:12,870 --> 01:16:11,360 so you use radar to dodge all the stuff 2057 01:16:15,830 --> 01:16:12,880 there's a lot of stuff 2058 01:16:17,030 --> 01:16:15,840 around the sun and and when it's time to 2059 01:16:20,550 --> 01:16:17,040 go to another 2060 01:16:21,750 --> 01:16:20,560 star system you go up at 90 degrees 2061 01:16:23,590 --> 01:16:21,760 you know here's the plane of the 2062 01:16:24,070 --> 01:16:23,600 ecliptic all the planets are going 2063 01:16:25,750 --> 01:16:24,080 around 2064 01:16:27,189 --> 01:16:25,760 you don't want to hit any of them you 2065 01:16:30,790 --> 01:16:27,199 want to go up 2066 01:16:32,070 --> 01:16:30,800 and then away so you you dodge out all 2067 01:16:34,310 --> 01:16:32,080 of the stuff that's in there 2068 01:16:36,070 --> 01:16:34,320 all the asteroids till you get to a 2069 01:16:38,630 --> 01:16:36,080 region of space that's 2070 01:16:40,950 --> 01:16:38,640 far away from you know all the debris 2071 01:16:42,470 --> 01:16:40,960 and then you go to light speed 2072 01:16:44,550 --> 01:16:42,480 i guess you just hope you don't hit 2073 01:16:46,310 --> 01:16:44,560 anything 2074 01:16:47,990 --> 01:16:46,320 what i would do first if i were the 2075 01:16:51,030 --> 01:16:48,000 united states government i would 2076 01:16:53,910 --> 01:16:51,040 send probes unmanned probes 2077 01:16:55,110 --> 01:16:53,920 using these flight paths that i'm 2078 01:16:57,030 --> 01:16:55,120 suggesting 2079 01:16:59,669 --> 01:16:57,040 they make it there and back without a 2080 01:17:01,830 --> 01:16:59,679 problem then it's probably pretty clear 2081 01:17:04,630 --> 01:17:01,840 and then you can go to things don't 2082 01:17:06,630 --> 01:17:04,640 things move in space all the time and 2083 01:17:08,550 --> 01:17:06,640 and some type of motion we may not be 2084 01:17:10,390 --> 01:17:08,560 familiar with you know i mean 2085 01:17:12,229 --> 01:17:10,400 a lot of things move like in a counter 2086 01:17:13,590 --> 01:17:12,239 clock i mean clockwise motion or 2087 01:17:15,590 --> 01:17:13,600 something like that 2088 01:17:17,669 --> 01:17:15,600 and like we're living right now at like 2089 01:17:18,790 --> 01:17:17,679 40 000 miles an hour or something along 2090 01:17:21,830 --> 01:17:18,800 those lines 2091 01:17:22,790 --> 01:17:21,840 um so i don't know how you could make a 2092 01:17:26,630 --> 01:17:22,800 path 2093 01:17:30,149 --> 01:17:26,640 i'm getting at 2094 01:17:33,350 --> 01:17:30,159 well we already have 2095 01:17:35,910 --> 01:17:33,360 plotted all the debris around our planet 2096 01:17:36,709 --> 01:17:35,920 and all the debris or most of the debris 2097 01:17:39,669 --> 01:17:36,719 that's around 2098 01:17:40,550 --> 01:17:39,679 you know the uh in the solar system the 2099 01:17:43,990 --> 01:17:40,560 asteroid 2100 01:17:47,110 --> 01:17:44,000 belts and so forth and what i'm saying 2101 01:17:50,390 --> 01:17:47,120 is they're all in a path 2102 01:17:52,870 --> 01:17:50,400 of playing a disc together 2103 01:17:55,030 --> 01:17:52,880 like they're not going like this all 2104 01:17:57,590 --> 01:17:55,040 over our solar system 2105 01:17:59,350 --> 01:17:57,600 they're you know basically everything is 2106 01:18:00,950 --> 01:17:59,360 in the plane of the ecliptic they're 2107 01:18:04,070 --> 01:18:00,960 they're all in this 2108 01:18:07,590 --> 01:18:04,080 one uh elliptical circular 2109 01:18:08,550 --> 01:18:07,600 area going around the sun so what i'm 2110 01:18:11,430 --> 01:18:08,560 saying is you don't 2111 01:18:12,950 --> 01:18:11,440 blast off into space going through the 2112 01:18:15,750 --> 01:18:12,960 plane of the ecliptic because you 2113 01:18:16,390 --> 01:18:15,760 you're going to hit something odds are 2114 01:18:19,910 --> 01:18:16,400 when you 2115 01:18:22,310 --> 01:18:19,920 you go up 2116 01:18:23,910 --> 01:18:22,320 90 degrees from it away from the plane 2117 01:18:24,870 --> 01:18:23,920 of the clip where there isn't a lot of 2118 01:18:26,790 --> 01:18:24,880 stuff 2119 01:18:28,870 --> 01:18:26,800 and then you go out to wherever you're 2120 01:18:31,910 --> 01:18:28,880 going at beyond light speed 2121 01:18:34,950 --> 01:18:31,920 so you have to clear out all away from 2122 01:18:35,910 --> 01:18:34,960 all the debris that's in our solar 2123 01:18:39,110 --> 01:18:35,920 system and that's 2124 01:18:40,950 --> 01:18:39,120 to me the safest way to do it is you you 2125 01:18:43,189 --> 01:18:40,960 don't you know come off the earth 2126 01:18:44,390 --> 01:18:43,199 and then you know go into the you know 2127 01:18:47,350 --> 01:18:44,400 how we sent our 2128 01:18:48,550 --> 01:18:47,360 rockets to from jumping from one planet 2129 01:18:51,350 --> 01:18:48,560 to another 2130 01:18:51,669 --> 01:18:51,360 uh they're in the plane of the ecliptic 2131 01:18:56,550 --> 01:18:51,679 and 2132 01:18:58,950 --> 01:18:56,560 they don't because they're going slow 2133 01:19:01,270 --> 01:18:58,960 enough and i suppose they use some 2134 01:19:03,030 --> 01:19:01,280 you know i don't know if they use they 2135 01:19:03,750 --> 01:19:03,040 probably don't use radar they just know 2136 01:19:05,430 --> 01:19:03,760 there's really 2137 01:19:07,189 --> 01:19:05,440 once you get away from the earth there 2138 01:19:09,270 --> 01:19:07,199 isn't much going on 2139 01:19:10,229 --> 01:19:09,280 except through the asteroid belt and and 2140 01:19:13,270 --> 01:19:10,239 they plotted 2141 01:19:13,590 --> 01:19:13,280 most of not all of the the rocks that 2142 01:19:15,510 --> 01:19:13,600 are 2143 01:19:17,030 --> 01:19:15,520 over there and they probably don't go 2144 01:19:20,630 --> 01:19:17,040 around that area 2145 01:19:22,070 --> 01:19:20,640 so um you have to put some thought into 2146 01:19:25,590 --> 01:19:22,080 your flight path your flight 2147 01:19:28,950 --> 01:19:25,600 plan definitely speaking of that 2148 01:19:32,470 --> 01:19:28,960 um say say uh all right i 2149 01:19:35,910 --> 01:19:32,480 i have this propulsion that you speak of 2150 01:19:37,510 --> 01:19:35,920 and i see a a star um you know four and 2151 01:19:39,110 --> 01:19:37,520 a half light years away and i want to 2152 01:19:43,030 --> 01:19:39,120 travel to that 2153 01:19:45,350 --> 01:19:43,040 how would i know um 2154 01:19:46,950 --> 01:19:45,360 well not maybe so much know the 2155 01:19:47,750 --> 01:19:46,960 direction but how would i know when to 2156 01:19:50,470 --> 01:19:47,760 stop 2157 01:19:51,990 --> 01:19:50,480 i mean you can't if i don't i don't 2158 01:19:53,430 --> 01:19:52,000 expect that whatever the craft or 2159 01:19:55,110 --> 01:19:53,440 whatever it is would have 2160 01:19:57,350 --> 01:19:55,120 windows that you could look out ahead 2161 01:19:59,030 --> 01:19:57,360 and then if it was any type of radar you 2162 01:20:00,950 --> 01:19:59,040 mentioned yourself if you're going 50 2163 01:20:02,870 --> 01:20:00,960 000 times the speed of light or whatever 2164 01:20:04,229 --> 01:20:02,880 you can't really send out a radar signal 2165 01:20:06,390 --> 01:20:04,239 ahead of you how would you know 2166 01:20:08,310 --> 01:20:06,400 how would you plot your your course and 2167 01:20:10,870 --> 01:20:08,320 and know how to stop 2168 01:20:12,310 --> 01:20:10,880 yeah i've also given that something you 2169 01:20:14,790 --> 01:20:12,320 know i'm thinking the same thing as you 2170 01:20:17,669 --> 01:20:14,800 guys are 2171 01:20:17,990 --> 01:20:17,679 there's a good questions um if you're 2172 01:20:20,629 --> 01:20:18,000 going 2173 01:20:21,270 --> 01:20:20,639 50 000 times the speed of light it's 2174 01:20:25,030 --> 01:20:21,280 going 2175 01:20:28,310 --> 01:20:25,040 you have a window to look out 2176 01:20:31,430 --> 01:20:28,320 is complete blackness because 2177 01:20:33,510 --> 01:20:31,440 the doppler effect is going to kick in 2178 01:20:34,550 --> 01:20:33,520 and the light let's say you point your 2179 01:20:36,470 --> 01:20:34,560 ship at a star 2180 01:20:37,830 --> 01:20:36,480 the light from that star is going to 2181 01:20:40,470 --> 01:20:37,840 shift to the blue 2182 01:20:42,070 --> 01:20:40,480 beyond the blue beyond purple to gamma 2183 01:20:43,590 --> 01:20:42,080 ray or whatever 2184 01:20:45,910 --> 01:20:43,600 and you're not going to be able to see 2185 01:20:47,910 --> 01:20:45,920 it but the light is still coming in in a 2186 01:20:50,070 --> 01:20:47,920 very compressed fashion 2187 01:20:53,270 --> 01:20:50,080 so what you have to have is a special 2188 01:20:55,510 --> 01:20:53,280 sensor some special camera or whatever 2189 01:20:58,229 --> 01:20:55,520 that still can detect that incoming 2190 01:21:01,030 --> 01:20:58,239 light even though it's highly compressed 2191 01:21:03,110 --> 01:21:01,040 and then does the math to compute it to 2192 01:21:04,950 --> 01:21:03,120 make it display on a screen 2193 01:21:06,629 --> 01:21:04,960 just sort of like they had in star trek 2194 01:21:07,590 --> 01:21:06,639 and you know at some points they had a 2195 01:21:11,350 --> 01:21:07,600 screen there 2196 01:21:14,390 --> 01:21:11,360 not a window and so you compensate 2197 01:21:17,510 --> 01:21:14,400 for the doppler shift by unshifting it 2198 01:21:20,790 --> 01:21:17,520 and then making the the star visible 2199 01:21:22,790 --> 01:21:20,800 and any stars visible uh that you're 2200 01:21:23,350 --> 01:21:22,800 traveling toward now the same thing 2201 01:21:25,910 --> 01:21:23,360 happens 2202 01:21:27,110 --> 01:21:25,920 behind you everything redshifts to 2203 01:21:29,270 --> 01:21:27,120 blackness 2204 01:21:30,870 --> 01:21:29,280 so when you're traveling beyond the 2205 01:21:33,750 --> 01:21:30,880 speed of light 2206 01:21:35,669 --> 01:21:33,760 50 000 times let's say all you're going 2207 01:21:37,750 --> 01:21:35,679 to be able to see if anything at all is 2208 01:21:39,590 --> 01:21:37,760 a little like a rainbow effect 2209 01:21:42,149 --> 01:21:39,600 at 90 degrees if you look out the 2210 01:21:44,229 --> 01:21:42,159 windows to the left or the right there 2211 01:21:46,790 --> 01:21:44,239 might be a little thin strip of light 2212 01:21:47,510 --> 01:21:46,800 or stars that are like look compressed 2213 01:21:49,669 --> 01:21:47,520 there 2214 01:21:51,189 --> 01:21:49,679 and you'll see those but that's not 2215 01:21:52,070 --> 01:21:51,199 going to do you any good for what's 2216 01:21:54,790 --> 01:21:52,080 coming ahead 2217 01:21:56,229 --> 01:21:54,800 because it's going to be pitch black and 2218 01:21:59,350 --> 01:21:56,239 so you need this 2219 01:22:00,709 --> 01:21:59,360 conversion system so that it takes the 2220 01:22:02,870 --> 01:22:00,719 incoming particle 2221 01:22:04,790 --> 01:22:02,880 light particles that are compressed 2222 01:22:08,149 --> 01:22:04,800 beyond our visual 2223 01:22:11,030 --> 01:22:08,159 abilities and then computes the you know 2224 01:22:12,950 --> 01:22:11,040 computes and changes it and compensates 2225 01:22:14,629 --> 01:22:12,960 and you know mathematically and then all 2226 01:22:17,830 --> 01:22:14,639 of a sudden you have a screen 2227 01:22:19,030 --> 01:22:17,840 where the stars look normal uh it's able 2228 01:22:20,870 --> 01:22:19,040 to sense them 2229 01:22:23,430 --> 01:22:20,880 and and give you a display so you can 2230 01:22:25,590 --> 01:22:23,440 see so it'll be interesting 2231 01:22:27,750 --> 01:22:25,600 be going that fast and you'll be able to 2232 01:22:29,510 --> 01:22:27,760 see the star growing 2233 01:22:30,790 --> 01:22:29,520 as you get there and you know within a 2234 01:22:33,110 --> 01:22:30,800 half an hour you'll you'll 2235 01:22:34,790 --> 01:22:33,120 you you'll actually be able to see it 2236 01:22:36,390 --> 01:22:34,800 you know kind of moving toward you and 2237 01:22:38,310 --> 01:22:36,400 getting bigger and bigger 2238 01:22:39,830 --> 01:22:38,320 that would be very exciting to see but 2239 01:22:40,950 --> 01:22:39,840 you'll have to use this special 2240 01:22:44,709 --> 01:22:40,960 technology to 2241 01:22:46,550 --> 01:22:44,719 to enable that inhabitability yeah 2242 01:22:48,390 --> 01:22:46,560 and how would you put on the brakes say 2243 01:22:52,070 --> 01:22:48,400 you're going that fast 2244 01:22:55,430 --> 01:22:52,080 how would you stop a very important 2245 01:22:58,390 --> 01:22:55,440 question a very 2246 01:23:00,229 --> 01:22:58,400 important safety issue there what you 2247 01:23:04,390 --> 01:23:00,239 have to do 2248 01:23:06,470 --> 01:23:04,400 see inside of that bubble that you're in 2249 01:23:07,669 --> 01:23:06,480 everything there is experiencing space 2250 01:23:09,990 --> 01:23:07,679 as if there is 2251 01:23:11,590 --> 01:23:10,000 almost no space there at all so there's 2252 01:23:14,149 --> 01:23:11,600 very little interaction with 2253 01:23:15,910 --> 01:23:14,159 it you basically feel weightless even 2254 01:23:18,229 --> 01:23:15,920 though you're going 2255 01:23:18,950 --> 01:23:18,239 you know 50 000 times the speed of light 2256 01:23:23,110 --> 01:23:18,960 if 2257 01:23:25,110 --> 01:23:23,120 that field you would be crushed by 2258 01:23:27,030 --> 01:23:25,120 you know inertia and all the other nasty 2259 01:23:30,229 --> 01:23:27,040 things that would happen to you 2260 01:23:33,270 --> 01:23:30,239 but you have to first reverse 2261 01:23:35,910 --> 01:23:33,280 the field you can't bring it down 2262 01:23:38,070 --> 01:23:35,920 if you bring it down you're dead you 2263 01:23:40,629 --> 01:23:38,080 have to maintain the magnetic fields 2264 01:23:41,590 --> 01:23:40,639 at all time it's a direct current kind 2265 01:23:43,750 --> 01:23:41,600 of a thing here 2266 01:23:44,790 --> 01:23:43,760 there's no going to zero current and 2267 01:23:47,110 --> 01:23:44,800 then going 2268 01:23:47,990 --> 01:23:47,120 reversing the current now what you do is 2269 01:23:51,110 --> 01:23:48,000 you reverse 2270 01:23:52,629 --> 01:23:51,120 the magnets so the stronger magnet 2271 01:23:54,790 --> 01:23:52,639 instead of being at the back of the 2272 01:23:55,990 --> 01:23:54,800 craft and providing the propulsion to 2273 01:23:58,709 --> 01:23:56,000 push forward 2274 01:23:59,910 --> 01:23:58,719 you make the stronger magnet go at the 2275 01:24:02,950 --> 01:23:59,920 front of the ship 2276 01:24:04,550 --> 01:24:02,960 so you slow the ship down first 2277 01:24:07,189 --> 01:24:04,560 and you'll be able to tell because 2278 01:24:09,110 --> 01:24:07,199 you're using a special sensing screen 2279 01:24:11,270 --> 01:24:09,120 that's going to be able to give you some 2280 01:24:14,390 --> 01:24:11,280 sort of a 2281 01:24:18,229 --> 01:24:14,400 radar doppler radar effect 2282 01:24:20,070 --> 01:24:18,239 that you can determine ah the shift 2283 01:24:22,149 --> 01:24:20,080 in the compression of that star is 2284 01:24:23,030 --> 01:24:22,159 slowing down now the light coming from 2285 01:24:25,750 --> 01:24:23,040 that star 2286 01:24:27,430 --> 01:24:25,760 i know i'm slowing down once i've slowed 2287 01:24:30,149 --> 01:24:27,440 down to a safe speed 2288 01:24:32,229 --> 01:24:30,159 well below the speed of light then you 2289 01:24:35,830 --> 01:24:32,239 can drop the field 2290 01:24:39,350 --> 01:24:35,840 but don't well below the speed of light 2291 01:24:42,470 --> 01:24:39,360 not 50 not you know i would say 2292 01:24:44,149 --> 01:24:42,480 one percent so you get when you get 2293 01:24:45,910 --> 01:24:44,159 close to where you're going then you 2294 01:24:47,830 --> 01:24:45,920 you slow it down these are good 2295 01:24:49,910 --> 01:24:47,840 questions because these are things 2296 01:24:51,910 --> 01:24:49,920 that the aliens obviously have worked 2297 01:24:53,990 --> 01:24:51,920 out because they're doing it 2298 01:24:55,830 --> 01:24:54,000 they're getting here and they're 2299 01:24:56,550 --> 01:24:55,840 definitely going beyond the speed of 2300 01:24:58,790 --> 01:24:56,560 light 2301 01:25:00,709 --> 01:24:58,800 so obviously there's a way to work 2302 01:25:02,070 --> 01:25:00,719 through these problems so i've tried to 2303 01:25:05,189 --> 01:25:02,080 give it some thought 2304 01:25:07,350 --> 01:25:05,199 as to how we could do it okay 2305 01:25:08,950 --> 01:25:07,360 our new reality is the screen name to 2306 01:25:11,270 --> 01:25:08,960 this person 2307 01:25:13,350 --> 01:25:11,280 thoughts on the accumulated effect of 2308 01:25:16,470 --> 01:25:13,360 time dilation and distance traveled for 2309 01:25:19,669 --> 01:25:16,480 the viability of space travel 2310 01:25:22,629 --> 01:25:19,679 what are your thoughts on that well 2311 01:25:23,270 --> 01:25:22,639 when you travel at this speed and i go 2312 01:25:26,470 --> 01:25:23,280 into 2313 01:25:27,669 --> 01:25:26,480 time and how it works in the physical 2314 01:25:30,470 --> 01:25:27,679 reality 2315 01:25:32,149 --> 01:25:30,480 and really time is time it's tied to 2316 01:25:40,550 --> 01:25:32,159 physical distance 2317 01:25:43,189 --> 01:25:40,560 then time and speed become time goes 2318 01:25:45,030 --> 01:25:43,199 drops to zero becomes absolute and speed 2319 01:25:48,310 --> 01:25:45,040 goes to infinity 2320 01:25:51,350 --> 01:25:48,320 so when you're traveling at this 2321 01:25:53,030 --> 01:25:51,360 these very high speeds basically the 2322 01:25:56,470 --> 01:25:53,040 time dilation problem 2323 01:25:58,390 --> 01:25:56,480 goes away during 2324 01:26:00,149 --> 01:25:58,400 normal propulsion where we're using 2325 01:26:00,950 --> 01:26:00,159 rockets or something your clock will 2326 01:26:04,550 --> 01:26:00,960 slow down 2327 01:26:07,750 --> 01:26:04,560 the twin paradox 2328 01:26:09,510 --> 01:26:07,760 problem whereas you go out maybe 2329 01:26:11,510 --> 01:26:09,520 the speed of light for so much time and 2330 01:26:14,149 --> 01:26:11,520 come back for so much time 2331 01:26:15,910 --> 01:26:14,159 it'll be like no time for you but two 2332 01:26:18,310 --> 01:26:15,920 hours let's say for the 2333 01:26:19,030 --> 01:26:18,320 people here on earth that's not a good 2334 01:26:23,750 --> 01:26:19,040 system 2335 01:26:27,030 --> 01:26:23,760 travel like they do on star trek 2336 01:26:29,990 --> 01:26:27,040 in real time so time becomes 2337 01:26:31,510 --> 01:26:30,000 absolute at these speeds because you can 2338 01:26:35,110 --> 01:26:31,520 get there if it takes you 2339 01:26:37,189 --> 01:26:35,120 an hour to get to another star system 2340 01:26:39,030 --> 01:26:37,199 it'll be an hour on earth because your 2341 01:26:42,390 --> 01:26:39,040 clocks will not be affected 2342 01:26:45,270 --> 01:26:42,400 as long as you stay within the slip wave 2343 01:26:47,189 --> 01:26:45,280 so it's it's like absolute real time 2344 01:26:47,669 --> 01:26:47,199 hour for you is an hour for people on 2345 01:26:49,830 --> 01:26:47,679 earth 2346 01:26:52,310 --> 01:26:49,840 is an hour for people on the other star 2347 01:26:53,669 --> 01:26:52,320 system an hour back is just enough so if 2348 01:26:53,990 --> 01:26:53,679 it takes you two hours to get there and 2349 01:26:56,310 --> 01:26:54,000 back 2350 01:26:57,430 --> 01:26:56,320 it's two hours for the people on earth 2351 01:27:00,870 --> 01:26:57,440 and for you 2352 01:27:03,110 --> 01:27:00,880 so this system works 2353 01:27:05,189 --> 01:27:03,120 perfectly this is the way it has to work 2354 01:27:06,310 --> 01:27:05,199 because if you had the time dilation 2355 01:27:08,950 --> 01:27:06,320 problem 2356 01:27:10,629 --> 01:27:08,960 and it would take you really if limited 2357 01:27:12,310 --> 01:27:10,639 by the speed of light it'd take you like 2358 01:27:15,189 --> 01:27:12,320 100 years to get to 2359 01:27:17,270 --> 01:27:15,199 some star 100 light years away that's 2360 01:27:20,629 --> 01:27:17,280 not practical 2361 01:27:22,390 --> 01:27:20,639 we can uh your lifetime will end before 2362 01:27:25,030 --> 01:27:22,400 you get there 2363 01:27:25,430 --> 01:27:25,040 you have to break the list yeah i know 2364 01:27:27,110 --> 01:27:25,440 you're 2365 01:27:29,510 --> 01:27:27,120 um pardon me i know you explained this 2366 01:27:31,189 --> 01:27:29,520 before but since you just brought the 2367 01:27:33,910 --> 01:27:31,199 term up let's explain that 2368 01:27:35,830 --> 01:27:33,920 one more time uh and and maybe i'll try 2369 01:27:38,390 --> 01:27:35,840 to understand it a little bit better too 2370 01:27:39,350 --> 01:27:38,400 slip wave can you explain slip wave oh 2371 01:27:42,149 --> 01:27:39,360 yeah 2372 01:27:43,189 --> 01:27:42,159 that's from my book that's a discovery i 2373 01:27:46,310 --> 01:27:43,199 made it's the way 2374 01:27:48,790 --> 01:27:46,320 particles move 2375 01:27:49,430 --> 01:27:48,800 in order to understand the unified field 2376 01:27:52,310 --> 01:27:49,440 theory 2377 01:27:53,430 --> 01:27:52,320 you have to understand how particles 2378 01:27:55,830 --> 01:27:53,440 move 2379 01:27:57,669 --> 01:27:55,840 and that they don't just have momentum 2380 01:27:59,110 --> 01:27:57,679 if you ask a physicist to say well 2381 01:28:01,030 --> 01:27:59,120 particles have momentum 2382 01:28:02,550 --> 01:28:01,040 well where'd they get it from how did 2383 01:28:04,470 --> 01:28:02,560 they met how does a light 2384 01:28:06,550 --> 01:28:04,480 particle manage to go at the speed of 2385 01:28:08,950 --> 01:28:06,560 light all the way across 2386 01:28:09,990 --> 01:28:08,960 the galaxy billions of years and not 2387 01:28:11,990 --> 01:28:10,000 slow down 2388 01:28:13,510 --> 01:28:12,000 we can't build a rocket that does that 2389 01:28:15,830 --> 01:28:13,520 we would take all the energy in the 2390 01:28:18,550 --> 01:28:15,840 world yet a light particle does it 2391 01:28:20,070 --> 01:28:18,560 without rockets and it and it does it 2392 01:28:23,590 --> 01:28:20,080 perpetually 2393 01:28:26,149 --> 01:28:23,600 so i had to understand uh there's a term 2394 01:28:27,430 --> 01:28:26,159 in physics for for that type of for 2395 01:28:30,550 --> 01:28:27,440 understanding motion 2396 01:28:32,470 --> 01:28:30,560 it's got to do with kinematics which is 2397 01:28:33,910 --> 01:28:32,480 a branch of mechanics concerned with the 2398 01:28:36,310 --> 01:28:33,920 motion of objects without 2399 01:28:37,110 --> 01:28:36,320 reference to the forces which cause the 2400 01:28:40,550 --> 01:28:37,120 motion 2401 01:28:43,110 --> 01:28:40,560 so the slip wave is the 2402 01:28:43,990 --> 01:28:43,120 method that i discovered particles use 2403 01:28:47,270 --> 01:28:44,000 which is 2404 01:28:49,669 --> 01:28:47,280 basically the the same 2405 01:28:50,790 --> 01:28:49,679 an electrostatic charge is a twist of 2406 01:28:54,709 --> 01:28:50,800 space 2407 01:28:56,709 --> 01:28:54,719 stretch 2408 01:28:57,750 --> 01:28:56,719 from a little bit at the beginning and a 2409 01:28:59,990 --> 01:28:57,760 lot at the end 2410 01:29:01,750 --> 01:29:00,000 it creates that bubble and i'm talking 2411 01:29:05,030 --> 01:29:01,760 about a mechanical 2412 01:29:06,950 --> 01:29:05,040 pressure so it's a pressure wave 2413 01:29:08,229 --> 01:29:06,960 so particles are pressure waves so what 2414 01:29:10,470 --> 01:29:08,239 the slip wave is 2415 01:29:12,149 --> 01:29:10,480 is a pressure wave created using 2416 01:29:14,709 --> 01:29:12,159 magnetic fields 2417 01:29:15,750 --> 01:29:14,719 uh and and you create a gradient field 2418 01:29:18,149 --> 01:29:15,760 where you have 2419 01:29:19,669 --> 01:29:18,159 more of this pushing pressure at the 2420 01:29:22,790 --> 01:29:19,679 rear end of the ship 2421 01:29:24,870 --> 01:29:22,800 and unless at the b at the front end so 2422 01:29:28,950 --> 01:29:24,880 the slip wave is a pressure wave 2423 01:29:32,390 --> 01:29:28,960 field and it's the same field that 2424 01:29:34,550 --> 01:29:32,400 all electrostatic charges use that means 2425 01:29:35,510 --> 01:29:34,560 all particles every particle in the 2426 01:29:38,229 --> 01:29:35,520 universe 2427 01:29:39,750 --> 01:29:38,239 moves because there's an internal 2428 01:29:42,149 --> 01:29:39,760 pressure wave gradient 2429 01:29:44,070 --> 01:29:42,159 inside of the particle and that gives 2430 01:29:44,629 --> 01:29:44,080 the particle a velocity which is a 2431 01:29:47,510 --> 01:29:44,639 motion 2432 01:29:50,070 --> 01:29:47,520 in a particular direction that's what's 2433 01:29:51,990 --> 01:29:50,080 needed to make the universe work 2434 01:29:53,350 --> 01:29:52,000 and so that's what the slip wave is and 2435 01:29:56,550 --> 01:29:53,360 so what i did is i 2436 01:29:59,350 --> 01:29:56,560 i took that model of how particles move 2437 01:30:01,669 --> 01:29:59,360 and applied it to building a starship 2438 01:30:04,149 --> 01:30:01,679 because that's the most efficient way to 2439 01:30:05,830 --> 01:30:04,159 move through uh space so that's what the 2440 01:30:09,270 --> 01:30:05,840 slip wave is 2441 01:30:11,750 --> 01:30:09,280 okay so knights do 2442 01:30:12,470 --> 01:30:11,760 wooden computing or decision making 2443 01:30:17,270 --> 01:30:12,480 process 2444 01:30:25,350 --> 01:30:21,110 ai interpreter and analysis 2445 01:30:32,470 --> 01:30:28,870 not if you're you're using this um 2446 01:30:35,910 --> 01:30:32,480 the the sensor system that i i 2447 01:30:36,310 --> 01:30:35,920 use and you have to use the technique of 2448 01:30:38,470 --> 01:30:36,320 space 2449 01:30:40,310 --> 01:30:38,480 travel you're worrying about computing 2450 01:30:42,709 --> 01:30:40,320 or calculating something that's coming 2451 01:30:44,550 --> 01:30:42,719 ahead of you that you might collide into 2452 01:30:47,110 --> 01:30:44,560 well when you get into a region where 2453 01:30:49,590 --> 01:30:47,120 there's a lot of stuff you slow down 2454 01:30:52,229 --> 01:30:49,600 so that you can use radar and you can 2455 01:30:53,669 --> 01:30:52,239 use computers to calculate and you plot 2456 01:30:56,790 --> 01:30:53,679 a course on the fly 2457 01:30:59,030 --> 01:30:56,800 at that point but um 2458 01:31:00,550 --> 01:30:59,040 so there won't be really a bottleneck 2459 01:31:03,910 --> 01:31:00,560 there would be if you were trying to 2460 01:31:07,669 --> 01:31:03,920 calculate stuff coming ahead of you 2461 01:31:09,189 --> 01:31:07,679 in deep space which uh i'm going to say 2462 01:31:09,830 --> 01:31:09,199 there's probably not a whole lot of 2463 01:31:13,110 --> 01:31:09,840 stuff 2464 01:31:15,030 --> 01:31:13,120 out there in deep space uh 2465 01:31:16,709 --> 01:31:15,040 if there was then i guess aliens would 2466 01:31:17,189 --> 01:31:16,719 have a really rough time getting here 2467 01:31:19,430 --> 01:31:17,199 because 2468 01:31:21,430 --> 01:31:19,440 they'd be getting killed left and right 2469 01:31:23,430 --> 01:31:21,440 so but we won't know until we send 2470 01:31:25,350 --> 01:31:23,440 probes out and what i 2471 01:31:27,750 --> 01:31:25,360 i would prefer to do and i would bet you 2472 01:31:30,790 --> 01:31:27,760 the united states government has done 2473 01:31:31,110 --> 01:31:30,800 is first send probes out and see if they 2474 01:31:33,590 --> 01:31:31,120 hit 2475 01:31:37,030 --> 01:31:33,600 anything and see if they can make it to 2476 01:31:38,870 --> 01:31:37,040 proxima centauri or alpha centauri 2477 01:31:40,709 --> 01:31:38,880 once they get beyond the solar system 2478 01:31:43,990 --> 01:31:40,719 without a problem 2479 01:31:45,430 --> 01:31:44,000 if they can do that and it's great 2480 01:31:47,990 --> 01:31:45,440 and if there's anything that you 2481 01:31:49,350 --> 01:31:48,000 visually can see this scanning system 2482 01:31:50,310 --> 01:31:49,360 i'm going to talk about we'll at least 2483 01:31:52,550 --> 01:31:50,320 pick that up 2484 01:31:56,070 --> 01:31:52,560 and your computers can easily handle 2485 01:32:02,470 --> 01:31:59,830 this isn't another is dangerous stuff 2486 01:32:03,590 --> 01:32:02,480 is you got to design systems that are 2487 01:32:06,229 --> 01:32:03,600 robust 2488 01:32:07,590 --> 01:32:06,239 and have redundancy and and have lots of 2489 01:32:09,510 --> 01:32:07,600 smarts put into them 2490 01:32:10,790 --> 01:32:09,520 so you don't have these problems that 2491 01:32:13,030 --> 01:32:10,800 we're talking about which are 2492 01:32:14,229 --> 01:32:13,040 very good questions that they're coming 2493 01:32:17,350 --> 01:32:14,239 up with 2494 01:32:18,550 --> 01:32:17,360 yeah have we achieved faster than light 2495 01:32:21,910 --> 01:32:18,560 speed with quantum 2496 01:32:25,270 --> 01:32:21,920 entanglement no 2497 01:32:29,910 --> 01:32:25,280 no quantum entanglement 2498 01:32:33,990 --> 01:32:29,920 is a in my opinion a very misunderstood 2499 01:32:38,310 --> 01:32:34,000 phenomena phenomenon 2500 01:32:40,149 --> 01:32:38,320 um it could get into a lengthy 2501 01:32:42,110 --> 01:32:40,159 lengthy discussion and it's got to do 2502 01:32:43,990 --> 01:32:42,120 with interpretations and 2503 01:32:47,669 --> 01:32:44,000 misinterpretations 2504 01:32:49,590 --> 01:32:47,679 and no sign most scientists will say 2505 01:32:51,350 --> 01:32:49,600 there's nothing traveling faster than 2506 01:32:53,430 --> 01:32:51,360 the speed of light there but they 2507 01:32:55,990 --> 01:32:53,440 they kind of bend around backwards and 2508 01:32:59,110 --> 01:32:56,000 apply it sometimes but 2509 01:33:00,950 --> 01:32:59,120 there's nothing moving in having to do 2510 01:33:01,990 --> 01:33:00,960 with quantum entanglement which is 2511 01:33:04,470 --> 01:33:02,000 really a kind of an 2512 01:33:06,629 --> 01:33:04,480 abstract idea rather than a real 2513 01:33:09,990 --> 01:33:06,639 physical entanglement 2514 01:33:12,950 --> 01:33:10,000 so no there is no faster than light 2515 01:33:13,750 --> 01:33:12,960 thing going on with quantum entanglement 2516 01:33:16,870 --> 01:33:13,760 okay 2517 01:33:18,790 --> 01:33:16,880 uh our lines are open and uh bill is 2518 01:33:23,229 --> 01:33:18,800 standing by to take your call 2519 01:33:26,149 --> 01:33:24,470 855-472-5483 2520 01:33:28,790 --> 01:33:26,159 again as bill is standing by if you'd 2521 01:33:32,390 --> 01:33:28,800 like to ask our guests this evening 2522 01:33:34,470 --> 01:33:32,400 some questions um so 2523 01:33:37,750 --> 01:33:34,480 uh i'm hearing just a little bit of 2524 01:33:41,030 --> 01:33:37,760 feedback here 2525 01:33:44,550 --> 01:33:41,040 there is another question i saw 2526 01:33:46,470 --> 01:33:44,560 have any of these no it was up 2527 01:33:48,870 --> 01:33:46,480 has any of these theories been reviewed 2528 01:33:51,910 --> 01:33:48,880 by someone else 2529 01:33:53,430 --> 01:33:51,920 i'm working on that right now 2530 01:33:55,350 --> 01:33:53,440 you said you were making you're doing 2531 01:33:57,750 --> 01:33:55,360 that paper that has to happen 2532 01:33:59,830 --> 01:33:57,760 i have to move to the next stage the 2533 01:34:02,229 --> 01:33:59,840 next phase which is basically 2534 01:34:03,270 --> 01:34:02,239 presenting these ideas to scientists i 2535 01:34:05,510 --> 01:34:03,280 have somebody 2536 01:34:07,270 --> 01:34:05,520 already who's willing to a physicist 2537 01:34:09,270 --> 01:34:07,280 who's going to review 2538 01:34:11,510 --> 01:34:09,280 the document that i'm working on right 2539 01:34:16,950 --> 01:34:11,520 now i'm going to upload 2540 01:34:21,350 --> 01:34:19,430 what do you call it journals um that 2541 01:34:24,070 --> 01:34:21,360 will accept it because i'm not 2542 01:34:26,629 --> 01:34:24,080 a real physicist i'm not this is so 2543 01:34:28,229 --> 01:34:26,639 bizarre that i'm in this situation but 2544 01:34:29,830 --> 01:34:28,239 it's the way it is i'm just gonna have 2545 01:34:32,709 --> 01:34:29,840 to go with it so 2546 01:34:33,669 --> 01:34:32,719 uh you know i'll upload it to wikipedia 2547 01:34:36,310 --> 01:34:33,679 or wherever 2548 01:34:38,149 --> 01:34:36,320 um that i can get this thing put on 2549 01:34:40,310 --> 01:34:38,159 because it's an actual real theories 2550 01:34:41,350 --> 01:34:40,320 backed by a book with references and so 2551 01:34:43,430 --> 01:34:41,360 forth 2552 01:34:46,390 --> 01:34:43,440 so yes that's something that i am 2553 01:34:48,470 --> 01:34:46,400 planning on doing it has to be done 2554 01:34:50,390 --> 01:34:48,480 if we're going to move forward the 2555 01:34:51,590 --> 01:34:50,400 people in authority are going to have to 2556 01:34:53,430 --> 01:34:51,600 recognize this 2557 01:34:55,750 --> 01:34:53,440 hopefully i can pull it off but there's 2558 01:34:59,669 --> 01:34:55,760 going to be a lot of resistance i think 2559 01:35:00,229 --> 01:34:59,679 because it's my method uses classical 2560 01:35:03,109 --> 01:35:00,239 physics 2561 01:35:06,310 --> 01:35:03,119 it doesn't use quantum mechanics so it's 2562 01:35:10,790 --> 01:35:06,320 not going to be something that's popular 2563 01:35:13,350 --> 01:35:10,800 that's one now yeah you hear about some 2564 01:35:14,390 --> 01:35:13,360 amazing things going on at the skunk 2565 01:35:16,470 --> 01:35:14,400 works 2566 01:35:18,070 --> 01:35:16,480 you know experimental things like that 2567 01:35:21,910 --> 01:35:18,080 uh i 2568 01:35:22,629 --> 01:35:21,920 i'm wondering has i know there's no way 2569 01:35:25,189 --> 01:35:22,639 to tell 2570 01:35:26,550 --> 01:35:25,199 but if any of your theories if you 2571 01:35:29,430 --> 01:35:26,560 thought that 2572 01:35:31,750 --> 01:35:29,440 they may be along the lines exploring 2573 01:35:33,109 --> 01:35:31,760 you know similar ideas 2574 01:35:34,790 --> 01:35:33,119 and i'm just wondering if you've ever 2575 01:35:37,510 --> 01:35:34,800 heard anything about it 2576 01:35:39,270 --> 01:35:37,520 um i well i've read a little bit about 2577 01:35:41,510 --> 01:35:39,280 it there's certain people that have 2578 01:35:42,790 --> 01:35:41,520 kind of come across the magnetism 2579 01:35:45,189 --> 01:35:42,800 connection 2580 01:35:46,149 --> 01:35:45,199 potluck cough and i think her name is 2581 01:35:48,950 --> 01:35:46,159 ling knee 2582 01:35:51,030 --> 01:35:48,960 or kneeling i always get that mixed up 2583 01:35:53,350 --> 01:35:51,040 but um 2584 01:35:55,350 --> 01:35:53,360 there's a few people that noticed that 2585 01:35:58,870 --> 01:35:55,360 there's a drop in 2586 01:36:02,750 --> 01:35:58,880 the weight of things that are 2587 01:36:05,990 --> 01:36:02,760 suspended above a rotational 2588 01:36:07,510 --> 01:36:06,000 superconducting field 2589 01:36:09,350 --> 01:36:07,520 or there's magnets under the 2590 01:36:10,870 --> 01:36:09,360 superconductor so i think that's having 2591 01:36:13,030 --> 01:36:10,880 more to do with the 2592 01:36:14,070 --> 01:36:13,040 drop in mass these are the kinds of 2593 01:36:16,709 --> 01:36:14,080 experiments that i 2594 01:36:17,910 --> 01:36:16,719 i ask people to do in my book we have to 2595 01:36:20,229 --> 01:36:17,920 link 2596 01:36:21,189 --> 01:36:20,239 magnetism to antigravity and the way to 2597 01:36:24,390 --> 01:36:21,199 do it is to 2598 01:36:26,149 --> 01:36:24,400 surround objects with mass in intense 2599 01:36:29,350 --> 01:36:26,159 magnetic fields 2600 01:36:32,149 --> 01:36:29,360 them 2601 01:36:34,070 --> 01:36:32,159 and then measure how they become lighter 2602 01:36:38,229 --> 01:36:34,080 so we know that we're screening the 2603 01:36:40,229 --> 01:36:38,239 or or not screening but uh 2604 01:36:41,590 --> 01:36:40,239 blocking in some way the the 2605 01:36:44,390 --> 01:36:41,600 gravitational field 2606 01:36:46,550 --> 01:36:44,400 from the earth if we put a magnetic 2607 01:36:48,149 --> 01:36:46,560 field across here let's say 2608 01:36:50,390 --> 01:36:48,159 and then we have something suspended 2609 01:36:52,709 --> 01:36:50,400 above this thing is going to be lighter 2610 01:36:54,950 --> 01:36:52,719 because the magnetic field is here 2611 01:36:57,189 --> 01:36:54,960 shielding the gravitational field from 2612 01:36:59,109 --> 01:36:57,199 getting through the magnetic field 2613 01:37:00,550 --> 01:36:59,119 so those kind of experiments got to be 2614 01:37:01,669 --> 01:37:00,560 done have they done it i bet you they 2615 01:37:04,149 --> 01:37:01,679 have i 2616 01:37:06,790 --> 01:37:04,159 i'm pretty sure the the united states 2617 01:37:08,550 --> 01:37:06,800 has done this and what research i've 2618 01:37:10,070 --> 01:37:08,560 done is i've noticed that the united 2619 01:37:13,030 --> 01:37:10,080 states air force 2620 01:37:14,070 --> 01:37:13,040 is at every high magnetics lab all over 2621 01:37:15,910 --> 01:37:14,080 the world 2622 01:37:17,910 --> 01:37:15,920 they're also interested in super 2623 01:37:18,870 --> 01:37:17,920 conducting cable and they're also 2624 01:37:22,149 --> 01:37:18,880 interested 2625 01:37:23,350 --> 01:37:22,159 and very small but very powerful power 2626 01:37:26,070 --> 01:37:23,360 sources 2627 01:37:27,030 --> 01:37:26,080 they invest a lot of money that nobody 2628 01:37:29,430 --> 01:37:27,040 notices 2629 01:37:31,189 --> 01:37:29,440 in these areas so they know they're 2630 01:37:32,229 --> 01:37:31,199 looking for the same things that i 2631 01:37:35,109 --> 01:37:32,239 suspected 2632 01:37:37,990 --> 01:37:35,119 they would be looking for a better 2633 01:37:39,590 --> 01:37:38,000 technology for creating powerful magnets 2634 01:37:41,750 --> 01:37:39,600 and the way to do that is you need 2635 01:37:43,510 --> 01:37:41,760 superconducting wire 2636 01:37:46,310 --> 01:37:43,520 and so anybody doing that research 2637 01:37:47,910 --> 01:37:46,320 they're also interested in 2638 01:37:49,430 --> 01:37:47,920 have they've done this they probably 2639 01:37:51,189 --> 01:37:49,440 know all of what 2640 01:37:54,149 --> 01:37:51,199 if especially if they reversed 2641 01:37:54,950 --> 01:37:54,159 engineered ufos they know all this stuff 2642 01:37:58,390 --> 01:37:54,960 already 2643 01:38:00,229 --> 01:37:58,400 the physicists there but now all that is 2644 01:38:01,270 --> 01:38:00,239 classified they're not going to talk 2645 01:38:05,590 --> 01:38:01,280 about that 2646 01:38:06,629 --> 01:38:05,600 why simple uh strategic military 2647 01:38:09,990 --> 01:38:06,639 advantage 2648 01:38:12,950 --> 01:38:10,000 he who owns the skies rules the world 2649 01:38:13,910 --> 01:38:12,960 basically if you can fly circles around 2650 01:38:16,229 --> 01:38:13,920 jets 2651 01:38:17,590 --> 01:38:16,239 and rockets with these spacecraft then 2652 01:38:20,310 --> 01:38:17,600 you own the skies 2653 01:38:21,350 --> 01:38:20,320 and so this technology is going to be 2654 01:38:23,270 --> 01:38:21,360 hush hush 2655 01:38:25,270 --> 01:38:23,280 anybody discovers a room temperature 2656 01:38:28,629 --> 01:38:25,280 superconducting material 2657 01:38:31,510 --> 01:38:28,639 it's going to get classified right 2658 01:38:32,550 --> 01:38:31,520 right uh we have someone on the line we 2659 01:38:35,030 --> 01:38:32,560 have frank 2660 01:38:36,390 --> 01:38:35,040 calling from baltimore frank welcome to 2661 01:38:38,790 --> 01:38:36,400 the show 2662 01:38:40,070 --> 01:38:38,800 bye thanks uh nice nice to talk to you 2663 01:38:44,070 --> 01:38:40,080 martin and your guest 2664 01:38:47,030 --> 01:38:44,080 um quick question um your spacecraft 2665 01:38:48,950 --> 01:38:47,040 when you establish this field around it 2666 01:38:50,709 --> 01:38:48,960 in order to go so fast 2667 01:38:52,550 --> 01:38:50,719 is there any possibility and you say 2668 01:38:55,510 --> 01:38:52,560 you're basically in a bubble that 2669 01:38:56,870 --> 01:38:55,520 as you move through um space that 2670 01:39:00,310 --> 01:38:56,880 material and 2671 01:39:00,790 --> 01:39:00,320 objects in regular 3d physical space 2672 01:39:04,149 --> 01:39:00,800 would be 2673 01:39:06,070 --> 01:39:04,159 shunted or somehow move around that 2674 01:39:07,270 --> 01:39:06,080 that that craft so you wouldn't have to 2675 01:39:09,109 --> 01:39:07,280 really worry about 2676 01:39:11,350 --> 01:39:09,119 running into them until you drop the low 2677 01:39:13,910 --> 01:39:11,360 light speed 2678 01:39:15,109 --> 01:39:13,920 would there be a field or something uh 2679 01:39:16,790 --> 01:39:15,119 yeah 2680 01:39:18,470 --> 01:39:16,800 that's also a very good question i 2681 01:39:23,030 --> 01:39:18,480 thought of that as well 2682 01:39:29,510 --> 01:39:26,390 objects particles maybe smaller 2683 01:39:31,510 --> 01:39:29,520 bits of debris will be shunted by the 2684 01:39:33,830 --> 01:39:31,520 magnetic field 2685 01:39:35,109 --> 01:39:33,840 like the way things are shunted here in 2686 01:39:38,790 --> 01:39:35,119 the earth at the 2687 01:39:42,070 --> 01:39:38,800 magnetic field and the the 2688 01:39:45,270 --> 01:39:42,080 solar um be called the uh 2689 01:39:46,709 --> 01:39:45,280 aurora and so forth particles are being 2690 01:39:48,709 --> 01:39:46,719 shunted in some way 2691 01:39:50,149 --> 01:39:48,719 these magnetic fields are pretty 2692 01:39:52,310 --> 01:39:50,159 powerful so 2693 01:39:54,310 --> 01:39:52,320 it's possible that we're gonna get a 2694 01:39:57,750 --> 01:39:54,320 shunting effect and the reason why 2695 01:39:59,510 --> 01:39:57,760 i do say that is that you'll notice that 2696 01:40:03,430 --> 01:39:59,520 these ufos 2697 01:40:07,109 --> 01:40:03,440 fly way beyond this the speed of sound 2698 01:40:10,870 --> 01:40:07,119 yet they do not create a sonic boom 2699 01:40:12,950 --> 01:40:10,880 so i due to the shunting phenomena that 2700 01:40:14,149 --> 01:40:12,960 you're talking about the air gets 2701 01:40:17,910 --> 01:40:14,159 rarified 2702 01:40:20,950 --> 01:40:17,920 ahead of the um spacecraft 2703 01:40:22,390 --> 01:40:20,960 of the ufo as it's flying and so it 2704 01:40:24,149 --> 01:40:22,400 prevents the the 2705 01:40:25,510 --> 01:40:24,159 shock wave the boom because there's no 2706 01:40:27,750 --> 01:40:25,520 pressure build up 2707 01:40:28,790 --> 01:40:27,760 because you're you're basically thinning 2708 01:40:30,870 --> 01:40:28,800 the air 2709 01:40:32,629 --> 01:40:30,880 with the magnetic field as you're as 2710 01:40:35,189 --> 01:40:32,639 you're flying through the air 2711 01:40:36,470 --> 01:40:35,199 so i think the shunting idea is 2712 01:40:40,550 --> 01:40:36,480 something that 2713 01:40:42,390 --> 01:40:40,560 is probable as a an effect that may help 2714 01:40:43,590 --> 01:40:42,400 protect people when they're flying in 2715 01:40:45,669 --> 01:40:43,600 deep space 2716 01:40:47,750 --> 01:40:45,679 but you know without any data without 2717 01:40:49,430 --> 01:40:47,760 any experiments it's hard to say 2718 01:40:52,149 --> 01:40:49,440 for sure but i think you're on to 2719 01:40:55,350 --> 01:40:52,159 something with that idea 2720 01:40:56,390 --> 01:40:55,360 yeah i'm just a follow-up i um regarding 2721 01:40:59,109 --> 01:40:56,400 the navigation 2722 01:40:59,910 --> 01:40:59,119 of when you're traveling at these uh 2723 01:41:03,109 --> 01:40:59,920 super light 2724 01:41:03,990 --> 01:41:03,119 speeds um i would think the navigation 2725 01:41:06,229 --> 01:41:04,000 would be really 2726 01:41:08,390 --> 01:41:06,239 problematic and i wonder if maybe some 2727 01:41:09,350 --> 01:41:08,400 of the sightings like the phoenix lights 2728 01:41:11,669 --> 01:41:09,360 and some 2729 01:41:13,510 --> 01:41:11,679 crap that fly over cities maybe they 2730 01:41:15,270 --> 01:41:13,520 have navigational errors when they 2731 01:41:17,270 --> 01:41:15,280 actually drop out of 2732 01:41:21,109 --> 01:41:17,280 back in the into light speed and they're 2733 01:41:25,430 --> 01:41:23,830 well you know that's a mystery that that 2734 01:41:25,990 --> 01:41:25,440 one that you're talking about where 2735 01:41:28,550 --> 01:41:26,000 they're just 2736 01:41:29,030 --> 01:41:28,560 basically well they're they're over the 2737 01:41:31,990 --> 01:41:29,040 city 2738 01:41:32,790 --> 01:41:32,000 but you can't really it's such a dark 2739 01:41:34,470 --> 01:41:32,800 night 2740 01:41:37,510 --> 01:41:34,480 that you can't really see anything but 2741 01:41:40,790 --> 01:41:37,520 the lights on the edges of the ship 2742 01:41:42,709 --> 01:41:40,800 which is something i also witnessed 2743 01:41:44,950 --> 01:41:42,719 once here right in front of my house in 2744 01:41:48,310 --> 01:41:44,960 the middle of the night 2745 01:41:51,510 --> 01:41:48,320 i was pretty close to this ship and 2746 01:41:56,629 --> 01:41:51,520 i could not see 2747 01:42:00,629 --> 01:41:56,639 um details i can only see an outline 2748 01:42:04,550 --> 01:42:00,639 are we still on here oh there we go yeah 2749 01:42:06,870 --> 01:42:04,560 okay um yeah so um 2750 01:42:09,430 --> 01:42:06,880 i don't know there's a lot of things 2751 01:42:12,070 --> 01:42:09,440 going on we only see a fringe 2752 01:42:12,629 --> 01:42:12,080 of what's out there and you know we have 2753 01:42:15,189 --> 01:42:12,639 to draw 2754 01:42:15,750 --> 01:42:15,199 conclusions based on very little data 2755 01:42:19,030 --> 01:42:15,760 you know 2756 01:42:20,709 --> 01:42:19,040 a sighting here citing their who knows 2757 01:42:22,790 --> 01:42:20,719 why they're out there maybe they were 2758 01:42:26,629 --> 01:42:22,800 doing that on purpose 2759 01:42:28,870 --> 01:42:26,639 to let people see to raise awareness 2760 01:42:29,990 --> 01:42:28,880 you could speculate all day long as how 2761 01:42:35,669 --> 01:42:30,000 these things 2762 01:42:41,350 --> 01:42:38,790 yeah hey frank 2763 01:42:42,709 --> 01:42:41,360 yes yeah thanks thanks so much for the 2764 01:42:45,109 --> 01:42:42,719 call frank 2765 01:42:47,109 --> 01:42:45,119 you gentlemen have a good evening all 2766 01:42:48,950 --> 01:42:47,119 right you too 2767 01:42:50,709 --> 01:42:48,960 all right so i guess baltimore is 2768 01:42:52,709 --> 01:42:50,719 popular because we have 2769 01:42:55,669 --> 01:42:52,719 another person from baltimore bud on the 2770 01:42:57,750 --> 01:42:55,679 line bud welcome to the show 2771 01:42:59,270 --> 01:42:57,760 hi how are you sir um listen mark i'll 2772 01:43:01,830 --> 01:42:59,280 just real quick question have you 2773 01:43:03,030 --> 01:43:01,840 had problems with like the cia or any 2774 01:43:03,510 --> 01:43:03,040 trying to go through those guys or 2775 01:43:05,510 --> 01:43:03,520 anything 2776 01:43:07,109 --> 01:43:05,520 any of that problems with them i was 2777 01:43:11,669 --> 01:43:07,119 hoping nobody would answer 2778 01:43:14,870 --> 01:43:11,679 ask that question uh 2779 01:43:19,109 --> 01:43:14,880 not really okay 2780 01:43:22,550 --> 01:43:19,119 i don't even want to put any kind of 2781 01:43:27,910 --> 01:43:22,560 you know opinion on that it's just okay 2782 01:43:29,189 --> 01:43:27,920 no um that's all i'm gonna say 2783 01:43:30,950 --> 01:43:29,199 fair enough thank you brother have a 2784 01:43:33,189 --> 01:43:30,960 great evening okay 2785 01:43:34,870 --> 01:43:33,199 all right thanks for the call uh lines 2786 01:43:36,390 --> 01:43:34,880 are open again that number is eight five 2787 01:43:38,470 --> 01:43:36,400 five four seven two five 2788 01:43:40,310 --> 01:43:38,480 four eight three and here's another 2789 01:43:41,590 --> 01:43:40,320 question that came up here uh 2790 01:43:43,590 --> 01:43:41,600 so knight stew is just trying to 2791 01:43:46,870 --> 01:43:43,600 understand this um 2792 01:43:47,990 --> 01:43:46,880 the theory here does this cascade effect 2793 01:43:50,470 --> 01:43:48,000 of space 2794 01:43:51,430 --> 01:43:50,480 which would push the craft forward has 2795 01:43:56,310 --> 01:43:51,440 anything to do 2796 01:43:59,430 --> 01:43:56,320 with torsion and or tensor calculating 2797 01:44:02,709 --> 01:43:59,440 well certainly the um 2798 01:44:05,590 --> 01:44:02,719 vortex theory which is a theory that 2799 01:44:06,229 --> 01:44:05,600 basically says that all particles are 2800 01:44:09,830 --> 01:44:06,239 basically 2801 01:44:13,270 --> 01:44:09,840 vortexes or twists of space convolutions 2802 01:44:15,350 --> 01:44:13,280 um that's a torsion theory which 2803 01:44:16,629 --> 01:44:15,360 it's not highly regarded i think in 2804 01:44:17,990 --> 01:44:16,639 physics right now but 2805 01:44:20,950 --> 01:44:18,000 we're going to have to get back into 2806 01:44:21,990 --> 01:44:20,960 that because that's the details of how 2807 01:44:24,229 --> 01:44:22,000 particles are moved 2808 01:44:25,270 --> 01:44:24,239 are going to come from torsion theory 2809 01:44:28,390 --> 01:44:25,280 and 2810 01:44:29,109 --> 01:44:28,400 pincer calculus well tensor fields or 2811 01:44:32,070 --> 01:44:29,119 tensor 2812 01:44:33,830 --> 01:44:32,080 equations that's what i used for the 2813 01:44:35,910 --> 01:44:33,840 gravity stuff 2814 01:44:37,109 --> 01:44:35,920 einstein said it would be a rank 2 2815 01:44:40,149 --> 01:44:37,119 tensor i did not 2816 01:44:42,229 --> 01:44:40,159 know at the time that he said that 2817 01:44:44,149 --> 01:44:42,239 when i discovered the equation that i 2818 01:44:47,590 --> 01:44:44,159 discovered which by the way is 2819 01:44:51,750 --> 01:44:47,600 over 300 years old um or 2820 01:44:53,750 --> 01:44:51,760 its origins are over 300. um 2821 01:44:55,669 --> 01:44:53,760 but later on you know i was wondering i 2822 01:44:58,709 --> 01:44:55,679 wonder if the equation that i'm using 2823 01:45:01,189 --> 01:44:58,719 is a rank two tensor and sure enough 2824 01:45:02,950 --> 01:45:01,199 it's actually the prime example of what 2825 01:45:06,629 --> 01:45:02,960 they call a rank 2 tensor 2826 01:45:10,629 --> 01:45:06,639 so i was really elated when i heard that 2827 01:45:10,950 --> 01:45:10,639 so yeah there's tensor's got to do with 2828 01:45:14,470 --> 01:45:10,960 that 2829 01:45:17,430 --> 01:45:14,480 this is all about fields and 2830 01:45:19,590 --> 01:45:17,440 in a continuous space and continuous is 2831 01:45:22,709 --> 01:45:19,600 just another word for solid 2832 01:45:25,189 --> 01:45:22,719 solid by definition is something that is 2833 01:45:27,350 --> 01:45:25,199 continuous 2834 01:45:29,030 --> 01:45:27,360 um i believe you addressed this earlier 2835 01:45:31,590 --> 01:45:29,040 richard wants to know your work has not 2836 01:45:33,669 --> 01:45:31,600 been peer reviewed but has any physicist 2837 01:45:35,109 --> 01:45:33,679 informally critiqued your theories i 2838 01:45:35,669 --> 01:45:35,119 think you mentioned something along 2839 01:45:39,030 --> 01:45:35,679 those lines 2840 01:45:41,910 --> 01:45:39,040 yeah i have one person already 2841 01:45:43,669 --> 01:45:41,920 who's very open-minded gentleman who's 2842 01:45:47,750 --> 01:45:43,679 agreed to do and he's 2843 01:45:51,350 --> 01:45:47,760 a gravity research physicist 2844 01:45:54,790 --> 01:45:51,360 at a major university so 2845 01:45:58,550 --> 01:45:54,800 yes i know i have to do that and 2846 01:45:58,870 --> 01:45:58,560 but i'm trying to really carefully write 2847 01:46:01,750 --> 01:45:58,880 up 2848 01:46:03,109 --> 01:46:01,760 my document it's already over 40 pages i 2849 01:46:05,590 --> 01:46:03,119 was hoping it wasn't going to be that 2850 01:46:08,629 --> 01:46:05,600 large but i have to explain 2851 01:46:11,030 --> 01:46:08,639 my thinking in great detail 2852 01:46:12,149 --> 01:46:11,040 and then present the math after i've 2853 01:46:14,709 --> 01:46:12,159 explained how i 2854 01:46:16,070 --> 01:46:14,719 got to that math and why i use that math 2855 01:46:18,790 --> 01:46:16,080 and what that math 2856 01:46:20,470 --> 01:46:18,800 means so yes i do have and i'm looking 2857 01:46:22,950 --> 01:46:20,480 for other 2858 01:46:23,830 --> 01:46:22,960 scientists to uh i'd like to be on some 2859 01:46:27,669 --> 01:46:23,840 of these 2860 01:46:29,990 --> 01:46:27,679 shows that they have so 2861 01:46:31,189 --> 01:46:30,000 that's something that i'm scheduling for 2862 01:46:34,390 --> 01:46:31,199 the future 2863 01:46:36,310 --> 01:46:34,400 it's a tough tough question kind of 2864 01:46:38,229 --> 01:46:36,320 along those lines uh 2865 01:46:40,229 --> 01:46:38,239 jennifer was asking if you were going to 2866 01:46:44,229 --> 01:46:40,239 be at the tesla tech conference 2867 01:46:47,510 --> 01:46:46,229 not at this time but i'll look into it i 2868 01:46:49,030 --> 01:46:47,520 didn't even know that was 2869 01:46:51,189 --> 01:46:49,040 something that was going on i love 2870 01:46:51,990 --> 01:46:51,199 testing that sounds exciting myself i 2871 01:46:54,709 --> 01:46:52,000 almost want to go 2872 01:46:55,109 --> 01:46:54,719 i want to find out more about it um uh 2873 01:46:57,270 --> 01:46:55,119 so 2874 01:46:58,870 --> 01:46:57,280 here's a here's a question i'm i'm 2875 01:47:01,590 --> 01:46:58,880 really liking this question 2876 01:47:02,709 --> 01:47:01,600 from mary grace and that is uh is the 2877 01:47:05,830 --> 01:47:02,719 reason why there's no 2878 01:47:08,950 --> 01:47:05,840 sound is is this 2879 01:47:12,149 --> 01:47:08,960 type of uh propulsion um 2880 01:47:13,590 --> 01:47:12,159 make any sound no because a lot of times 2881 01:47:16,709 --> 01:47:13,600 people will talk and myself 2882 01:47:19,669 --> 01:47:16,719 my my ufo sighting that was 2883 01:47:20,550 --> 01:47:19,679 uh the reason i'm on this show tonight 2884 01:47:23,350 --> 01:47:20,560 that craft had 2885 01:47:23,990 --> 01:47:23,360 absolutely no sound but moved and uh so 2886 01:47:27,510 --> 01:47:24,000 many people 2887 01:47:31,109 --> 01:47:27,520 talk about the same thing if if you get 2888 01:47:33,750 --> 01:47:31,119 close enough if it's an 2889 01:47:34,310 --> 01:47:33,760 there are advanced technologies and then 2890 01:47:37,510 --> 01:47:34,320 there's 2891 01:47:39,590 --> 01:47:37,520 super advanced technologies the 2892 01:47:40,629 --> 01:47:39,600 the guys that are only a few thousand 2893 01:47:44,149 --> 01:47:40,639 years ahead of us 2894 01:47:47,750 --> 01:47:44,159 and who are doing starship travel 2895 01:47:49,910 --> 01:47:47,760 those craft may make a low frequency hum 2896 01:47:51,270 --> 01:47:49,920 sound and that's something you hear 2897 01:47:54,070 --> 01:47:51,280 occasionally too 2898 01:47:55,669 --> 01:47:54,080 yes and and if you have a radio or 2899 01:47:57,270 --> 01:47:55,679 something you will hear some sort of a 2900 01:47:59,830 --> 01:47:57,280 hummers and that's 2901 01:48:00,550 --> 01:47:59,840 the current going through the wire and 2902 01:48:04,470 --> 01:48:00,560 it's being 2903 01:48:07,350 --> 01:48:04,480 pulsed uh or oscillating 2904 01:48:09,270 --> 01:48:07,360 and an oscillation mode is used when the 2905 01:48:10,470 --> 01:48:09,280 craft is going very slow it's just 2906 01:48:12,629 --> 01:48:10,480 hovering 2907 01:48:14,310 --> 01:48:12,639 and you can use an oscillation mode just 2908 01:48:17,510 --> 01:48:14,320 to hold the craft 2909 01:48:18,070 --> 01:48:17,520 steady above the earth and and you can 2910 01:48:20,470 --> 01:48:18,080 move very 2911 01:48:21,510 --> 01:48:20,480 slowly with it very precise move 2912 01:48:24,470 --> 01:48:21,520 movements 2913 01:48:25,030 --> 01:48:24,480 in those cases you might hear a hum but 2914 01:48:29,350 --> 01:48:25,040 when it's 2915 01:48:31,910 --> 01:48:29,360 cranked up to full speed um 2916 01:48:33,910 --> 01:48:31,920 if there's any humming uh oscillation 2917 01:48:34,709 --> 01:48:33,920 going on it's a higher frequency and 2918 01:48:37,830 --> 01:48:34,719 it's 2919 01:48:39,990 --> 01:48:37,840 going to be above 2920 01:48:41,990 --> 01:48:40,000 the hearing range at that point which 2921 01:48:46,950 --> 01:48:42,000 will be above 20 2922 01:48:49,189 --> 01:48:46,960 020 kilohertz basically 2923 01:48:50,070 --> 01:48:49,199 uh greg wants to know have you ever 2924 01:48:53,109 --> 01:48:50,080 studied the 2925 01:48:55,030 --> 01:48:53,119 hutchinson effect and now 2926 01:48:56,310 --> 01:48:55,040 i'm i'm wondering if that's the guy up 2927 01:48:59,430 --> 01:48:56,320 in canada i'm not 2928 01:49:02,470 --> 01:48:59,440 i i may be confusing that um 2929 01:49:04,950 --> 01:49:02,480 and and it's just an anti-gravity 2930 01:49:06,629 --> 01:49:04,960 type of uh study the guy was doing and 2931 01:49:09,750 --> 01:49:06,639 supposedly had 2932 01:49:12,870 --> 01:49:09,760 made some uh breakthroughs and 2933 01:49:14,790 --> 01:49:12,880 and let's see looks like okay we have we 2934 01:49:16,629 --> 01:49:14,800 have about uh 2935 01:49:18,470 --> 01:49:16,639 about right about five minutes left just 2936 01:49:21,910 --> 01:49:18,480 to give you a heads up on that 2937 01:49:25,030 --> 01:49:21,920 um but now what about 2938 01:49:27,030 --> 01:49:25,040 i think within the last few years 2939 01:49:28,149 --> 01:49:27,040 there was a study or i want to say a 2940 01:49:31,350 --> 01:49:28,159 paper that 2941 01:49:32,550 --> 01:49:31,360 basically um came out that gravity was 2942 01:49:34,470 --> 01:49:32,560 more of a wave or 2943 01:49:35,589 --> 01:49:34,480 or a wave and a particle or something 2944 01:49:38,790 --> 01:49:35,599 like that what are your 2945 01:49:39,589 --> 01:49:38,800 what's your uh reaction to that whatever 2946 01:49:43,430 --> 01:49:39,599 that was 2947 01:49:44,229 --> 01:49:43,440 well gravity's gravity can't put out a 2948 01:49:47,350 --> 01:49:44,239 wave 2949 01:49:49,750 --> 01:49:47,360 a ripple if there's a big enough event 2950 01:49:52,709 --> 01:49:49,760 like two neutron stars colliding or 2951 01:49:54,870 --> 01:49:52,719 two black holes colliding it'll put out 2952 01:49:56,229 --> 01:49:54,880 a wave through space because the space 2953 01:49:59,350 --> 01:49:56,239 is a medium like 2954 01:50:00,629 --> 01:49:59,360 kind of like water not exactly but when 2955 01:50:04,550 --> 01:50:00,639 those two things 2956 01:50:07,589 --> 01:50:04,560 collide there's a this kind of motion 2957 01:50:10,390 --> 01:50:07,599 a rippling motion like a oscillation 2958 01:50:11,990 --> 01:50:10,400 and that goes outward light just like a 2959 01:50:12,550 --> 01:50:12,000 water you know you drop a pebble in the 2960 01:50:15,189 --> 01:50:12,560 water 2961 01:50:17,270 --> 01:50:15,199 and that that kind of wave but but 2962 01:50:18,310 --> 01:50:17,280 that's not the source of gravity that's 2963 01:50:22,070 --> 01:50:18,320 in effect 2964 01:50:25,030 --> 01:50:22,080 a massive effect due to the incredible 2965 01:50:25,669 --> 01:50:25,040 powerful objects coming together there's 2966 01:50:27,510 --> 01:50:25,679 you know 2967 01:50:28,790 --> 01:50:27,520 sometimes they don't just smack together 2968 01:50:31,750 --> 01:50:28,800 but they go around 2969 01:50:33,350 --> 01:50:31,760 like this really you know circling each 2970 01:50:34,790 --> 01:50:33,360 other closer and closer and then they 2971 01:50:37,589 --> 01:50:34,800 collapse into each other 2972 01:50:38,550 --> 01:50:37,599 that makes a wave too that is detected 2973 01:50:40,470 --> 01:50:38,560 by 2974 01:50:42,470 --> 01:50:40,480 uh people who are measuring gravity 2975 01:50:44,149 --> 01:50:42,480 waves and looking for gravity waves 2976 01:50:46,550 --> 01:50:44,159 which is something that einstein 2977 01:50:48,470 --> 01:50:46,560 predicted and has been confirmed to be 2978 01:50:50,229 --> 01:50:48,480 true and real 2979 01:50:53,189 --> 01:50:50,239 i think this might be one of my first 2980 01:50:56,070 --> 01:50:53,199 questions from us being over on twitch 2981 01:50:57,270 --> 01:50:56,080 so thank you ellen uh so ellen wanted to 2982 01:50:59,910 --> 01:50:57,280 know do you have any plans to do 2983 01:51:03,030 --> 01:50:59,920 lectures anywhere 2984 01:51:04,830 --> 01:51:03,040 yes uh but those lectures they'll be 2985 01:51:10,229 --> 01:51:04,840 more scientific 2986 01:51:12,629 --> 01:51:10,239 uh for certain groups of scientists 2987 01:51:14,310 --> 01:51:12,639 i am planning on doing one eventually 2988 01:51:16,149 --> 01:51:14,320 for the anti-gravity group 2989 01:51:18,390 --> 01:51:16,159 and then maybe you know going to some of 2990 01:51:20,550 --> 01:51:18,400 these conferences and stuff once the 2991 01:51:21,430 --> 01:51:20,560 virus thing starts to clear out a little 2992 01:51:24,390 --> 01:51:21,440 bit 2993 01:51:25,270 --> 01:51:24,400 um you know when it's a little safer to 2994 01:51:28,629 --> 01:51:25,280 travel i'm 2995 01:51:32,149 --> 01:51:28,639 pretty old i'm 66 so 2996 01:51:33,750 --> 01:51:32,159 i you know i got to be careful um yeah 2997 01:51:35,350 --> 01:51:33,760 so i've been staying at home and doing 2998 01:51:38,390 --> 01:51:35,360 these shows which has worked out 2999 01:51:40,229 --> 01:51:38,400 really good for me but you know it's i 3000 01:51:42,950 --> 01:51:40,239 need to get out and do shows and 3001 01:51:45,189 --> 01:51:42,960 yes i've i prepared a a very good 3002 01:51:48,070 --> 01:51:45,199 powerpoint presentation 3003 01:51:48,629 --> 01:51:48,080 and and then and also this document that 3004 01:51:50,950 --> 01:51:48,639 i'm 3005 01:51:51,990 --> 01:51:50,960 putting out that will be placed in 3006 01:51:54,470 --> 01:51:52,000 journals 3007 01:51:56,149 --> 01:51:54,480 if you go to my youtube site or or my 3008 01:51:58,870 --> 01:51:56,159 facebook and 3009 01:52:00,229 --> 01:51:58,880 make friends or whatever i'll i will 3010 01:52:02,950 --> 01:52:00,239 update everybody 3011 01:52:04,149 --> 01:52:02,960 on facebook i guess the most efficient 3012 01:52:06,550 --> 01:52:04,159 way 3013 01:52:07,270 --> 01:52:06,560 to let them know that this document is 3014 01:52:09,350 --> 01:52:07,280 available 3015 01:52:12,709 --> 01:52:09,360 and any conferences i go to and i'll put 3016 01:52:14,950 --> 01:52:12,719 it on my website too i was going to the 3017 01:52:16,149 --> 01:52:14,960 the one contact in the desert but that 3018 01:52:20,709 --> 01:52:16,159 got cancelled a couple 3019 01:52:23,030 --> 01:52:20,719 times in a row so i gave up but um 3020 01:52:24,550 --> 01:52:23,040 eventually i'll probably go to that and 3021 01:52:27,430 --> 01:52:24,560 and the mufon one 3022 01:52:28,310 --> 01:52:27,440 and some of these other things hopefully 3023 01:52:30,310 --> 01:52:28,320 you know 3024 01:52:31,430 --> 01:52:30,320 maybe a ted talk or something one of 3025 01:52:34,149 --> 01:52:31,440 these days 3026 01:52:36,229 --> 01:52:34,159 but i have to i got a presentation that 3027 01:52:38,070 --> 01:52:36,239 i'm working on right now for to do that 3028 01:52:39,910 --> 01:52:38,080 kind of work 3029 01:52:41,910 --> 01:52:39,920 someone wanted to know what i can't pull 3030 01:52:45,030 --> 01:52:41,920 it up right now but they want to know 3031 01:52:47,189 --> 01:52:45,040 does magnetism does can uh 3032 01:52:49,270 --> 01:52:47,199 mercury have anything to do with you 3033 01:52:51,030 --> 01:52:49,280 know the mercury properties or 3034 01:52:52,629 --> 01:52:51,040 mercury vapor or anything like that have 3035 01:52:56,830 --> 01:52:52,639 anything to do with uh 3036 01:52:58,149 --> 01:52:56,840 magnetism or any type of effects if it 3037 01:53:00,149 --> 01:52:58,159 does 3038 01:53:02,070 --> 01:53:00,159 you know i would have to talk to 3039 01:53:05,189 --> 01:53:02,080 somebody who studied that more than 3040 01:53:07,510 --> 01:53:05,199 material scientists or something that 3041 01:53:09,030 --> 01:53:07,520 i haven't really looked up and i i seem 3042 01:53:11,669 --> 01:53:09,040 to remember some reports 3043 01:53:13,830 --> 01:53:11,679 people talking about ufos and mercury or 3044 01:53:16,070 --> 01:53:13,840 something coming out of them or whatever 3045 01:53:18,070 --> 01:53:16,080 having maybe being mercury or something 3046 01:53:21,189 --> 01:53:18,080 of that nature 3047 01:53:21,589 --> 01:53:21,199 i haven't studied it at all all i know 3048 01:53:24,870 --> 01:53:21,599 is 3049 01:53:27,430 --> 01:53:24,880 what i need to generate a magnetic field 3050 01:53:29,830 --> 01:53:27,440 and if you move that magnetic field you 3051 01:53:32,709 --> 01:53:29,840 enhance its power and strength 3052 01:53:33,189 --> 01:53:32,719 and maybe with mercury rotating in some 3053 01:53:37,910 --> 01:53:33,199 way 3054 01:53:40,709 --> 01:53:37,920 it has an effect on the magnetic field 3055 01:53:42,550 --> 01:53:40,719 that enhances it it's possible but i 3056 01:53:44,870 --> 01:53:42,560 haven't really studied and i haven't 3057 01:53:46,870 --> 01:53:44,880 read anything that 3058 01:53:49,270 --> 01:53:46,880 makes sense to me in that way or 3059 01:53:49,589 --> 01:53:49,280 anybody's speculated about that at all 3060 01:53:52,310 --> 01:53:49,599 but 3061 01:53:53,109 --> 01:53:52,320 i i have heard mercury in conversation 3062 01:53:55,350 --> 01:53:53,119 before 3063 01:53:56,950 --> 01:53:55,360 great well let's uh let's quickly we're 3064 01:53:57,589 --> 01:53:56,960 out of time here so let's quickly throw 3065 01:54:05,550 --> 01:53:57,599 out your 3066 01:54:11,430 --> 01:54:07,669 www.superhyphenrelativity.com 3067 01:54:12,629 --> 01:54:11,440 and my book is on amazon and it's on my 3068 01:54:14,229 --> 01:54:12,639 website 3069 01:54:15,990 --> 01:54:14,239 all right well i wish you the best of 3070 01:54:18,149 --> 01:54:16,000 luck and hey you never know 3071 01:54:19,030 --> 01:54:18,159 a breakthrough can come from someone 3072 01:54:22,149 --> 01:54:19,040 they would least 3073 01:54:24,790 --> 01:54:22,159 expect and there's this book all right 3074 01:54:25,350 --> 01:54:24,800 okay all right mark thanks so much okay 3075 01:54:27,510 --> 01:54:25,360 thank you 3076 01:54:29,510 --> 01:54:27,520 all right take care all right everyone 3077 01:54:30,390 --> 01:54:29,520 so don't forget next week we have lou 3078 01:54:33,109 --> 01:54:30,400 elizondo 3079 01:54:33,750 --> 01:54:33,119 on in uh formulate your questions for 3080 01:54:35,830 --> 01:54:33,760 chat but 3081 01:54:37,990 --> 01:54:35,840 also i think i might open up the phone 3082 01:54:39,830 --> 01:54:38,000 lines a little bit earlier 3083 01:54:41,990 --> 01:54:39,840 you can also send me some email 3084 01:54:43,189 --> 01:54:42,000 questions for lou 3085 01:54:45,189 --> 01:54:43,199 if you'd like it should be an 3086 01:54:46,070 --> 01:54:45,199 interesting show and i hope to see 3087 01:54:49,510 --> 01:54:46,080 everyone back 3088 01:54:51,750 --> 01:54:49,520 there and thank you all for tuning in 3089 01:55:04,790 --> 01:54:51,760 this evening and remember to keep your 3090 01:55:11,550 --> 01:55:04,800 eyes to the sky